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Old Nov 08, 2012, 08:27 PM
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You can rebuild the 65HB's with the metal gear set. If you got the servo just order the gear set. It's easy to do not to mention cheaper.
Whenever I strip a servo I send it bacl top Hi Tec, and it costs me less for them to put a gear set in that the retail cost of the gears, plus they will checkthe whole servo over if you ask them. I've sent back a lot of abused servos and the only thing they have ever charged me for has been the cost of the gears themselves.

Since we're talking about a new $400 airplane, I think the cost of metal gears is insignificant when compared to stripping out an elevator servo at 100 mph.. I've done that before and it really sucked.
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Old Nov 08, 2012, 09:42 PM
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Doc,

I got an idea if I'm able to get down there the 2nd week of Dec. If I still have that 45" Extra do ya wanna have some fun and put an overpowered system in till it dies. Would make a hell of a video.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 02:28 AM
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Doc,

I got an idea if I'm able to get down there the 2nd week of Dec. If I still have that 45" Extra do ya wanna have some fun and put an overpowered system in till it dies. Would make a hell of a video.

Put a 2812 in it and see if we can make it explode.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 12:27 PM
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how do you guys manage 13x6.5 on 4s on 800kv hacker.... it gets to 800w and 50A on less than 70% throttle...

i love power of 12x6 but i want more propeller disc...i guess that vess 13x6 wich i ordered will be also waaay too much... guess for upcoming yak, ill have to beg someone for another motrofy from USA...

p.s. this morning on my first battery plane got SO wobbly, i barely got it down... turned out that one of my SFG was comming off...(i glued wingtips to sfg but didnt glue sfg to wing... (and yes, i know its not the proper way, but if trash it, im not about to repair it, ill just get another so i can get rudder right this time or get laser...)
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 03:06 PM
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For 13x6.5, I'd recommend a lower KV motor for 4S, or dropping down to 3S.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 03:33 PM
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well, on 3s it definetely needs MORE punch...
so far i have tried mxs with
sunnysky 920, while pulls 3dhs 48"sc like a rocket, msx was very anemic... (like non-light 42" slick on omega 72" with 2200 batteries...)
hacker 800kv on
3s on 13x6.5 could barely keep the plane in the air,
on 14x7 power to weight seemed somewhere around 1:1 to 1:1.1...
on 4s on 12x6 i could live with dialling throttle back to around 85% but im too lasy to mess with throttle curwe after!
for my next motor, (laser or yak) i will either get another 3615,just maybe a tad higer wind than 750 or protonic(EU motrofly) 3620 650(if they will ever come back to stock...)

so far my conclusion is that for msx with battery weight of around 300g sweet spot is 600-650W of power...
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 03:35 PM
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well, on 3s it definetely needs MORE punch...
so far i have tried mxs with
sunnysky 920, while pulls 3dhs 48"sc like a rocket, msx was very anemic... (like non-light 42" slick on omega 72" with 2200 batteries...)
hacker 800kv on
3s on 13x6.5 could barely keep the plane in the air,
on 14x7 power to weight seemed somewhere around 1:1 to 1:1.1...
on 4s on 12x6 i could live with dialling throttle back to around 85% but im too lasy to mess with throttle curwe after!
for my next motor, (laser or yak) i will either get another 3615,just maybe a tad higer wind than 750 or protonic(EU motrofly) 3620 650(if they will ever come back to stock...)

so far my conclusion is that for msx with battery weight of around 300g sweet spot is 600-650W of power...
There is an EU Motorfly? I type in Protonic into Google but no relevant results
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 03:44 PM
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http://www.a2pro-online.com/

they dont do custom winds
they dont have custom sizes like 3615 or 4315
most of the motors come with collet style adapters
most (or all of them) comes as mountable behind firewall....
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 07:36 PM
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http://www.a2pro-online.com/

they dont do custom winds
they dont have custom sizes like 3615 or 4315
most of the motors come with collet style adapters
most (or all of them) comes as mountable behind firewall....
Thanks for that!
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 07:49 PM
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Put a 2812 in it and see if we can make it explode.
Now we're talking fun!!
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 02:11 PM
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Okay, one fault for the 48" MXS red/blue/white plane. On a low overcast day, you really need to keep the plane close for 3D, at least I do, as the orientation is easy to lose. Fortunately, the planes control surfaces mean the plane is easy to save, too.

I need to figure out something for this, because sometimes the clouds are low when the wind is down.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 02:16 PM
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Okay, one fault for the 48" MXS red/blue/white plane. On a low overcast day, you really need to keep the plane close for 3D, at least I do, as the orientation is easy to lose. Fortunately, the planes control surfaces mean the plane is easy to save, too.

I need to figure out something for this, because sometimes the clouds are low when the wind is down.
strange... how can you mix red with white or blue?

or i guess our definition about definition of 'close' differ...

but as i hated bottom wing scheme since beginning, yesterday i peeled all the white squares off! lets see how it looks tomorrow!
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 02:41 PM
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strange... how can you mix red with white or blue?

or i guess our definition about definition of 'close' differ...

but as i hated bottom wing scheme since beginning, yesterday i peeled all the white squares off! lets see how it looks tomorrow!
Thick clouds at 800 feet makes for both sides of the plane looking dark 75 feet up and 100 yards away. It was probably tough light for any plane. I think the only solution in this light is LEDs. I didn't try the 64" MXS because it was too cold and I didn't want to put the wings on, get my fingers all cold, and then have to warm up in the car for a half hour.



But in the sun, I love the checkerboard pattern.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 03:08 PM
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The red, white,and blue, scheme MXS is so much harder to pick (know orientation) in a clouded sky than the red, white and blue Edge....but is great in blue skies...which for the UK isn't exactly as frequent as would like - surprising the blue Extra is far easiest to see and pick in blue or clouded sky...

Also-

Am I the only one running high kV motor on EF planes....1130kV swinging a 12x7 on a 3s setup is sweet...
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 04:43 PM
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Yes but your British so we expect backwards thinking
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