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Old Mar 14, 2011, 09:38 PM
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I have been eye balling the Jetiger.
Nitroplanes sells them and so does Hobby King.
I'm wondering if they would be a good next step after some flying experience with a Stryker "C"


http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...dProduct=10358


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Looks cool, not hip on the how the rudders connect, fast hook up but more drag and stuff. I would think you would be able to fly it fine if you can fly the Stryker. It should fly almost identical since the Stryker doesn't have blown surfaces either, there both deltas, no blown surfaces, non-moving rudder, and twin rudders, if you wanted to go with a different style of EDF you could I would think.
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Old Mar 14, 2011, 09:57 PM
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Thanks snivilous
I kind of figured it may be a good next step.
I'll wait to see what others say about it.

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Old Mar 14, 2011, 10:10 PM
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Thanks snivilous
I kind of figured it may be a good next step.
I'll wait to see what others say about it.

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Honestly, as I said, I am 99% sure you will have no trouble with it. I will never say a plane gets boring to fly, but I think it will feel...redundant to your Stryker (assuming that's still alive). Kinda like what's the point of having two of the same airplane (more or less).
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Old Mar 14, 2011, 10:37 PM
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Ya it's still alive LOL, but did get away on me today and I did have a forced landing.
But that was my fault for not checking the trim slider setting for the elevator before chucking it into the air.

OK ya I could see how it may be redundant.... in looks and flight characteristics.

Any other suggested jets?


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Old Mar 15, 2011, 11:18 AM
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Everyone says the foam Habu works really well, I have personally never seen or flown it but it's reported to be a good first jet. Hobby-Lobby has a lot of good, cheap, foam EDFs. Honestly, from what I've seen of the Stryker, and as I said, since it doesn't have blown surfaces (like an EDF), I think you could choose any EDF and do well with it. Mainly I would recommend something without thrust vectoring (though I'm sure you would be fine with it) and something with wheels, since it seems EDFs have a harder time accelerating than standard aircraft for hand launching (just to be safe I'd go with wheels, either way).

If you want something cheap that IS a hand launch the JPower 50mm EDFs are good and can be really sooped up (Toysonics, NitroPlanes, BananaHobby distribute them).

Then there's always the Phase 3 F-16 and Squall (one of my favorite EDFs), both are hand launch (though nice big intake to throw from, really easy), both have lots of power stock, both can be upgraded a lot also, etc.

Overall, I would suggest the Phase 3 F-16 (distributed by HobbyPeople.net), they come as ARFs with motor, fan, and esc, so you would need servos, rx, and battery.

Hope this helps.
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Old Mar 15, 2011, 12:33 PM
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Thanks very much for the info snivilous!

The Phase 3 F-16 does seem nice, watched a bunch of YouTube videos....




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Old Mar 15, 2011, 12:44 PM
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+1 on J-power 50mm. The T-45 is a really easy flying and visually orientation jet (compared to most others) It comes with quick-release landing gear (non-steerable). It's only $60 right now at Banana. Just need a RX.

I have the Habu. It's a lot of $$ to get started with 70mm jets. Batteries and repairs get costly. Need a ton of landing and approach space.

I don't doubt the Phase 3 EF-16 as a good choice either. I never got it because of the complaints of the elevators tearing off on less than perfect landings.
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Old Mar 15, 2011, 01:06 PM
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+1 on J-power 50mm. The T-45 is a really easy flying and visually orientation jet (compared to most others) It comes with quick-release landing gear (non-steerable). It's only $60 right now at Banana. Just need a RX.

I have the Habu. It's a lot of $$ to get started with 70mm jets. Batteries and repairs get costly. Need a ton of landing and approach space.

I don't doubt the Phase 3 EF-16 as a good choice either. I never got it because of the complaints of the elevators tearing off on less than perfect landings.
This one?

http://www.bananahobby.com/2078.html

It's not $60.00

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Old Mar 17, 2011, 01:38 AM
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My bad. The L-39 and AMX is $60.
Anyway, the Airframe only kits are the better way to go (and only $30) if you don't mind a little solder and glue. You can remove the paint on the glue surfaces to adhere much better.

Get a 30A Volcano ESC (Pentium rebrand) for $13, a couple of SG-90 servos for $3 ea, & a couple Skylipo 1000 3s 40c f $8 ea rom Hobbypartz (all free shipping).

It's really not that hard. You need to shorten the motor wires and lengthen the battery wires on the ESC, use smaller battery connectors and change to 3.5mm bullet connectors to stock motor (Yes, it really comes with a motor even though the description says it doesn't.) I'm getting about 240-250W with this setup. (motors vary slightly from one another)
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Old Mar 17, 2011, 03:34 AM
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My bad. The L-39 and AMX is $60.
Anyway, the Airframe only kits are the better way to go (and only $30) if you don't mind a little solder and glue. You can remove the paint on the glue surfaces to adhere much better.

Get a 30A Volcano ESC (Pentium rebrand) for $13, a couple of SG-90 servos for $3 ea, & a couple Skylipo 1000 3s 40c f $8 ea rom Hobbypartz (all free shipping).

It's really not that hard. You need to shorten the motor wires and lengthen the battery wires on the ESC, use smaller battery connectors and change to 3.5mm bullet connectors to stock motor (Yes, it really comes with a motor even though the description says it doesn't.) I'm getting about 240-250W with this setup. (motors vary slightly from one another)
Checked out BH after reading your posts, and I've heard both good and bad about them, however those "airframe only" kits seem like a great deal. They do mention "50mm edf included", and the videos of the F-86 and F-16 are convincing of the plane's flyability, (the videos are on the page with the rxr versions of the planes which cost $69.90). An issue for me though is that the shipping seems a bit high, cheapest is $13.68, (which includes a "handling" fee. I just got a Phase 3 EF-16 "airframe only" from Hobby People for $40 + $5 to ship). That brings the ultimate price of a $30 "sale" item to nearly $50 w/ sales tax; hmmmm, that "great deal" dwindles a bit........still a temptation, and so many to choose from.

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Old Mar 17, 2011, 08:09 AM
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Thanks, that looks like the way to go, just get the kit.


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Old Mar 17, 2011, 08:38 PM
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If you buy 2 or more, shipping is much more reasonable. Can always get an extra.
There is a very big thread on here about these jets. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1158665
RCG member, The Don of Don'sRC.com even sells hot-rod motors and fans to push these little guys over 100mph.
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Old Mar 18, 2011, 12:21 AM
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If you buy 2 or more, shipping is much more reasonable. Can always get an extra.
There is a very big thread on here about these jets. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1158665
RCG member, The Don of Don'sRC.com even sells hot-rod motors and fans to push these little guys over 100mph.
Thanks for that tip on the shipping, and the fact that "The Don" makes upgrades for them lends credibility to them. The combined shipping makes it a little more attractive, but I still think the "flat rate" shipping costs, especially when compared to other retailers is a bit high.

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Old Mar 18, 2011, 01:02 AM
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Thanks for that tip on the shipping, and the fact that "The Don" makes upgrades for them lends credibility to them. The combined shipping makes it a little more attractive, but I still think the "flat rate" shipping costs, especially when compared to other retailers is a bit high.

Sonny
I agree that the shipping cost is too high... But I also realized that they are cheaper than the competition.

They have some of these at :
http://www.toysonics.com/edf-jet/
http://shop.hobbyshopwarehouse.com/5...F-JETS_c18.htm
http://www.venom-group.com/storeitem...ion=Air#gpJets
http://www.nitroplanes.com/69a05-50-...o-battery.html
http://www.okhobby.com/product.php?id_product=1564
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=13427
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html

And I noticed someone sells them for crazy prices on Amazon.com LOL
http://www.amazon.com/Inexpensive-Bl.../dp/B003H2798Y
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Old Mar 18, 2011, 01:35 AM
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Yes, I see that; thanks for the links. I admit it's still a decent deal, but when I see the word "handling" in any shipping quote, it sets my radar off; "handling" charges are deceptive marketing in my opinion. I notice also that they only offer UPS shipping to the CONUS, and only ship USPS to Hawaii, Puerto Rico and Canada; a major reason for their higher shipping rates IMHO, (plus the "handling" charge which goes straight into their pockets).

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