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Old Aug 29, 2010, 10:15 PM
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Flight simulators are they worth the cost?

Hi Guy’s & Girls

My questions have more them likely been asked 100 times before, but please have patience with me I’m new to the group.

I’m planning of returning to R/C after decades of absents. I would like some impute on
whether simulators are would be worth the investment. Who’s is the best at the lesast cost? Now that I’ve retired I’m on a limited budget.

The plane I’m considering is.
1) Balsa, ARF, 50-70” trainer (not to sure of foamies)
2) Horizontal & vertical rudders, aileron, throttle control
3) Electric powered
4) 5 or 6 CH spectrum radio system (2.4GHZ is really the
way to go).
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 11:22 PM
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Yes and no.

I couldn't see buying say Real Flight 5 being retired and on a fixed income but I could see buying Real Flight 3.5 used.

It should pay its self off in saved planes in very short time.
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Old Aug 29, 2010, 11:47 PM
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Flight sims will save you a ton of money in the long run. Plus, you can fly when the outside weather sucks.

Best use of a sim is to practice risky flying, like high winds and/or cross wind landings.

Sims are a smart investment, you will not feel like you wasted your money. Even using it just half an hour a week will reinforce hand-eye coordination and train muscle memory, both of which can save a real plane if something unexpected pops up...like having to avoid another plane and then having to recover from wherever that move left you.

For basic training, like how do I move the sticks when the plane is flying toward me, any basic cheap sim will help. Spending the money on the nicer sims will add realism in how the air reacts with the plane...etc. The graphics of a high end sim will also make things easier on you...computer screans are pretty small, so things get tough to see faster than they do in real life... high resolution graphics make the details pop out a little better.

My last piece of advise is get a sim that comes with it's own controller. I have Real Flight G-4.5 which has such a controller and also has the option of hooking up your own...I have tried to use my regular radio several times but it never seems to work all the functions as well as the game controller does. I would hate to see you get a sim and get frustrated trying to make it work with your own radio.....Others, I'm sure will have their opinions on that matter. but thats my stand on the subject.
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 05:38 AM
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Considering the blades on my brothers T-Rex 700e are around 120$ a pair then if he saved 2 crashes cause he practice with a sim then even using RF g5 its was worth it.
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 06:31 AM
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Absolutely no question - get a sim.

Even FMS (which is free) and the appropriate cable for your transmitter will be enough to get you going. No need to spend loads at this stage. Even once you've leared the basics, it's great for learing aerobatics.

Sims will never be 100% like reality of course, but you will feel much more confident with the real model if you have mastered some basic skills on the sim.
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 08:28 AM
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I have found using a sim to be well worth the expense and time I have invested in using it. I bought the Phoenix model with the Dx5e. Seemed like a good deal at the time. If I were doing it over I probably would have bought it without the Dx5e and bought the Dx6i instead. If I were you I'd invest in the transmitter first and then a sim that will work with it.
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 10:00 AM
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I have found using a sim to be well worth the expense and time I have invested in using it. I bought the Phoenix model with the Dx5e. Seemed like a good deal at the time. If I were doing it over I probably would have bought it without the Dx5e and bought the Dx6i instead. If I were you I'd invest in the transmitter first and then a sim that will work with it.
ZackJones is correct. If you have to choose between a good transmitter and a flight simulator, get the better transmitter. Look at all the vendors selling 2.4 gear.

The best way to save a plane is with an instructor and a buddy box.

todd
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 10:28 AM
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Definitly worth the cost. The question will be how much you spend.
I personally don't like the cost of Realflight. I use the sim MOSTLY for Helicopters, but did use it alot when I got back into flying in 2007 after an 8 year stoppage.
I went the cheap USB box using FMS, then found Clearview. Got a used copy of Realflight G3.5 but found it was a computer hog. Then and now use Phoenix mostly for the Helicopter physics.
Some info on going on the cheap:
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 10:28 AM
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No. Free, yes.
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 12:29 PM
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I want to think all of you for your response. Sounds like it will save $$$$ in the long run. Think I’ll download a free bee. If that doesn’t work I guess I’ll in vest the $$$$

P.S
when you post a thread how long be for it appears on the forum?
This was my first thread it seem like it took 12hr.
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Old Aug 30, 2010, 04:25 PM
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when you post a thread how long be for it appears on the forum?
This was my first thread it seem like it took 12hr.
Hyed, every time I have posted a thread it appeared immediately.

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Old Aug 31, 2010, 03:42 PM
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I am right in the middle of this same issue. I am a newbie and just bought the Parkzone P51BL Plane. I can fly it basically, but now that I have destroyed it for all practical purposes, I am rebuilding and need to learn how to not wreck. That being said, I bought the RTF version which came with stock radio and reciever (FM). I am thinking I should just upgrade to the 2.4 world. I don't know what is economical, though. Here is where I am (and any advice on making the right decision is appreciated):

1) DX6i + Realflight G5 - $400
2) DX6i + Phoenix - $350
3) DX5e + G5 - $300
4) DX5e + Phoenix - $175
5) Stock PKZ FM Transmitter + G5 - $200

What would you all advise a newbie to do?
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Old Aug 31, 2010, 05:11 PM
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RE: Flight simulators are they worth the cost?

In a word... ABSOLUTELY!

I use the Dynam USB TX and Clear Vew simulator
the best bang for the buck!


you can find a lot of good Virtual aircrafts here
http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?...pid=375877&ck=
and
http://gunnerson.homestead.com/files...iew_models.htm

i have found that If I can successfully fly and land a virtual plane with the CV sim then I have no problems flying and landing the real deal.
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Old Aug 31, 2010, 05:14 PM
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What would you all advise a newbie to do?
Click on those links that I posted below your last post unless you are rich
Clearview RC flight sim (4 min 20 sec)
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Old Aug 31, 2010, 05:25 PM
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Simulators

I was faced with the same problem of getting back into it after exiting R/C in 1975.

FMS is worth it because it's free and the Cessna 180 that comes with it is similar to my Eflite Apprentice.

I picked up a control box here http://www.nitroplanes.com/simulator.html for $20 and spent a lot of time on it to get to the point of being able to get the Apprentice up and down in one piece.

Well worth it to me...
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