I can't speak for the B3D, but for the v1 Beast hyperions are not required. The turnigy nano-tech 160s do a pretty good job and it's hard to notice the difference.

Don't get hung up on hyperions.. it's a lot of "hype." It's better to buy 50 batteries at $1 each than 10 batteries at $5 each.

Originally Posted by binaryclock

I can't speak for the B3D, but for the v1 Beast hyperions are not required. The turnigy nano-tech 160s do a pretty good job and it's hard to notice the difference.

Don't get hung up on hyperions.. it's a lot of "hype." It's better to buy 50 batteries at $1 each than 10 batteries at $5 each.

Regarding th v1, with the stock prop, maybe. But with the 5043, DEFINITELY untrue. I'd rather have 10 batteries that give me sparkling performance than 50 that give me mush. It's as clear as night and day. Verticals go from barely, mushy, weak with the stock prop and stock battery to aggressive boring holes in the sky, supporting fast rolls as far as you can see with the 5043 and Hyperions. It's all what you're looking for.

Well i put an order in for 10 turnigy 160`s earlier today so that`s what i`ll use for now and as i`ll just be taking it easy for a while i reckon they`ll be fine, seems a lot of others are using them too.
Plus i can charge them with my existing leads without paying 6 odd pounds for yet another charge lead

Originally Posted by binaryclock

I can't speak for the B3D, but for the v1 Beast hyperions are not required. The turnigy nano-tech 160s do a pretty good job and it's hard to notice the difference.

Don't get hung up on hyperions.. it's a lot of "hype." It's better to buy 50 batteries at $1 each than 10 batteries at $5 each.

That has not been my experience. Hyperions are a clear performance boost. I like my UM's much better after I started using them. I've tried the Hobbycity UM batteries and I have a lot of them sitting around unused. The larger Hobbycity batteries work great for me though.

Originally Posted by erkq

Regarding th v1, with the stock prop, maybe. But with the 5043, DEFINITELY untrue. I'd rather have 10 batteries that give me sparkling performance than 50 that give me mush. It's as clear as night and day. Verticals go from barely, mushy, weak with the stock prop and stock battery to aggressive boring holes in the sky, supporting fast rolls as far as you can see with the 5043 and Hyperions. It's all what you're looking for.

I use the 5043 with turnigy nano techs and it's fine. Actually the hyperions are mush compared to the nano techs and they all have about the same amount of flights. Maybe I ran the hyperions harder than the nano-techs? not sure.. could be the case.

The hyperions seem to last a bit longer though. The nano techs will start to fall off around the 3 min mark.

Again, 50 batteries vs 10... if you aren't a pro or semi-pro, the choice is obvious for the most stick time.

This is based on v1 Beast, not B3D... B3D may be a total other ball park.. no idea about that one.

Actually the hyperions are mush compared to the nano techs and they all have about the same amount of flights.

The only logical reason I can see for this would be the fact that hyperions maintain higher voltage longer during discharge and thus are easier to overdischarge than some others.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1565033

No Nanos tested there but I have tested some in the past and was not impressed. I will test the 180 HK nanos if they ever ship them.

Charles

I bought the b3d and after reading more it appears they need more power so it looks like i`ll have to buy better batts after all. And charge leads

Good job i don`t add up everything i spend on this hobby...might send send me over the edge...wibble

I bought Hyperion 180 single cells and using Joel (Turboparkers) example soldered my own home made 2 cell packs up and they work AMAZINGLY well on my V1 Beast. VERY noticeable improvement over the Stock Eflite lipo.

I have not tried the Nano's yet, and must say, I picked up 1 for my mCPX heli (single cell) and was impressed with the improvement over my stock Eflite lipos, so maybe it will be good.

I can say without hesitation the Hyperions are great lipos, and the V1 Beast (which is less power hungry) on GWS 5030 prop has unlimited vertical, can hover (within the skills of the pilot) and pull out vertical from the same, throughout the entire duration of my 6 min flights.

Just took some low and slow video and will try to edit it up and post a link soon. Nothing near as nice flying as RG or Joel, but WAYYYY too much fun. CG was way back and it sure does help with harrier and hover, but kinda makes standard flying and KE harder!

Marlin

Yep the e-flite ones are garbage.

1S Hyp. 120 and HK Nano 138 compared

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=21

Originally Posted by everydayflyer

1S Hyp. 120 and HK Nano 138 compared

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=21

that's a flightmax, not a nano tech

I now have 4 cycles on my new Hyperion 240, and a 180. So far I feel they are not pulling as hard as the Nana Tech 180s are at 20 cycles. And the mini Aviation 210 is really strong at 15 cycles. But I admit, I don't have the equipment, or the skills to make any definitive claims, just noob observations.

Originally Posted by snjbird

I now have 4 cycles on my new Hyperion 240, and a 180. So far I feel they are not pulling as hard as the Nana Tech 180s are at 20 cycles. And the mini Aviation 210 is really strong at 15 cycles. But I admit, I don't have the equipment, or the skills to make any definitive claims, just noob observations.

At only 4 cycles, those Hyperions are not even broken yet.

Originally Posted by RealGambler

At only 4 cycles, those Hyperions are not even broken yet.

Yes time will tell, but I have been playing with lipos in my helis for 5 years, and they don't ever get any stronger, the longer you run them?

Originally Posted by snjbird

Yes time will tell, but I have been playing with lipos in my helis for 5 years, and they don't ever get any stronger, the longer you run them?

Hyperions typically get stronger for the first 50-70 cycles, and then stabilize for the next couple hundred cycles or so.

Joel