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Old Sep 18, 2012, 06:25 PM
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7:00 winds are down, rain stopped and I assemble the Extra and take it outside my school. (my son is at band practice). I am blessed with a work environment (middle school) where they provide me with a nice flying field.

I am shaking having read the posts of the horrors flying this plane can bring. I add throttle and get it up in the air. FAST and stable. Does it stall? Yes. It has a gentle recovery and I land it so I can calm down. Second flight beautiful. Once more and I lanc almost smoothly on a windy evening in the failing light.

WOW I thought the Stryker C was fast. I followed the advice and observed the ailerons were drastically reduced and from my first trial Sunday I was IMPRESSED. Handful for sure but I must declare. Pardon the caps and yes I am shouting

I AM A HAPPY OWNER!!!!
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:46 AM
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my doppler app (rcspeedo) puts this plane at around 68mph at full throttle with standard setup.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 09:02 AM
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I don't recall that many people feeling that the plane suffered from a bad tip stall. I don't feel it does at all. It's not meant to be flown at a snails pace. It's not that kind of plane.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 10:11 AM
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I agree. Many good aerobatic airplanes (full size) will have stall characteristics that will kill a pilot who is not vigilant. a tapered wing with an angle cut aileron will stall at the end resulting in a dropped wing. A trainer will stall at the root first and dihedral will save the day. Yo can't do good aerobatics in a trainer.

Some posts in other threads make one feel like the thing will stall and crash very easily. I found the stall mild and recoverable. Than the wing tip drops instead of the root was expected and not unreasonable.

My comments were the reason I was so nervous about my solo flight. The plane was jiggling because I was shaking! This morning was awesome. My son loved it too.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 06:53 PM
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I have seen some mention of setting up flaperons for slower landings. Anyone tried it with success?

I have seen several props mentioned too. Using the original esc are there some prop changes that can be beneficial?
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:51 PM
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I have seen some mention of setting up flaperons for slower landings. Anyone tried it with success?

I have seen several props mentioned too. Using the original esc are there some prop changes that can be beneficial?
I tried both an 11x7 and a 12x6 prop. I liked the 12x6 best. Gives you more thrust, but a little less speed. Draws a little more than the stock prop, but it's still OK with the stock ESC and battery.

If you get the CG right the landings are nice without worrying about flaperons. To phrase it the other way - if you think you need flaperons, try shoving the battery farther forward first.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 10:36 PM
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I tried both an 11x7 and a 12x6 prop. I liked the 12x6 best. Gives you more thrust, but a little less speed. Draws a little more than the stock prop, but it's still OK with the stock ESC and battery.

If you get the CG right the landings are nice without worrying about flaperons. To phrase it the other way - if you think you need flaperons, try shoving the battery farther forward first.
I have it full forward. Just wondered if it would help slow down landings while I am getting accustomed.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 08:17 AM
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With stock esc and 2200 3s---For excellent thrust and slower landings try prop MAS nylon/glass electric only 11x6. Stock prop is tough for landings--very fast prop with not enough thrust at low speeds. This prop is even easier to land with then the APC 11x7 I think.

http://masterairscrew.com/11x6electr...propeller.aspx

landing with 8mph headwind is easier then 0mph.
yes the approach needs quite a bit of room--and landing strip needs to be fairly long.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 09:21 AM
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With stock esc and 2200 3s---For excellent thrust and slower landings try prop MAS nylon/glass electric only 11x6. Stock prop is tough for landings--very fast prop with not enough thrust at low speeds. This prop is even easier to land with then the APC 11x7 I think.

http://masterairscrew.com/11x6electr...propeller.aspx

landing with 8mph headwind is easier then 0mph.
yes the approach needs quite a bit of room--and landing strip needs to be fairly long.
I have a great place to fly. I agree that some more thrust would be helpful. My LHS has some Master props. I have noticed a tendency to climb with power. Is it worth putting in a little downthrust?
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 01:43 PM
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I have it full forward. Just wondered if it would help slow down landings while I am getting accustomed.
I might try a elevator/flap mix on mine. Flapperons too once I get the restrictive AR500 out of there.

The problem with flapperons though is that they would be full span, yes allowing slower flight, but if you did stall then an already tip stall happy airframe could really have you in trouble
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 04:51 PM
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I tried flapperons and seconds after it tip stalled into the crop I removed the setting....recovered the model and no damage so I got away with it, I only tried it to see if it helped, as I really have never had any issues landing her.
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Old Sep 20, 2012, 11:28 PM
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I have a great place to fly. I agree that some more thrust would be helpful. My LHS has some Master props. I have noticed a tendency to climb with power. Is it worth putting in a little downthrust?
if you use the MAS 11x6 you will have to slightly modify the stock spinner to get the prop to fit right. Very easy with sharp knife to carve out the holes a bit wider for the prop.

so @ WOT your plane climbs ?...I have my elevator trimmed so that at full throttle my plane has almost level flight...so at 1/2 throttle definetely going down some. Adding downthrust on the prop mount? perhaps if you had a bad crash and it got knocked up a tad---no, not pregnant---this is not the mile high club.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 11:18 AM
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OK Ill admit it. I crashed while landing (no flaps) because I overeacted to a gust. Cracked the rudder. Very strong airframe. Can anyone give a technique for landing? I think I am laring a little high. FAST plane.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 06:04 PM
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OK Ill admit it. I crashed while landing (no flaps) because I overeacted to a gust. Cracked the rudder. Very strong airframe. Can anyone give a technique for landing? I think I am laring a little high. FAST plane.
Only thing I can think of is extending your final and give yourself a little longer to float her down.
One thing I have found is she picks up really well if you need to abort the landing..
Nose up and full power and go around again.
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Old Sep 21, 2012, 08:42 PM
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landing...I start landing final approach 100+ yards away. The final turn before that is 130+ yards. Plane likes to land with some speed so I have throttle on 1/4 until 1-2' above the grass. 3" wheels help too. Then full up elevator as touches down.

I am also a big fan of low rates @ 60% and expo at 50-60%.

Changing props made HUGE difference in landing. With stock prop you really have to land fast.

Rickflaguy--I crashed too--this was my first 40" plane..--I got this right after micro sukhoi. At first I used to break a prop 1 out 5 flights. Steam from tea kettle and foam tac glue are great stuff for repairs. My battery went through the firewall 2X. Your prop and motor mount may need adjusting if you had major damage in the cowl area.
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