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Old Oct 18, 2012, 10:25 PM
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Try getting the fruit stand to answer the phone.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 10:29 PM
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If they want to send you a new plane, I believe that would be pretty good service. The other companies won't even talk to you, never mind actually help you. But, your money, your call. As for me, Horizon will be seeing more of my money.
BH has done better than HH did this go around. Yes, really.

Beyond that, my main issue was how I was treated more than what was offered. When people who are there to fix a company's mistakes should not treat customers like I was treated.

Edit: Maybe I was too sensitive about it. The last two weeks have been very rough for me personally and I bought this to make me happy. Perhaps I need to see if they are still willing to do an exchange instead of getting my money back. The guy said he was printing off the shipping label in the morning. Hmmmmm
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 07:01 AM
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Sometimes it's how you approach things. In some cases it's not the squeaky wheel that gets the oil.
I'm not saying you didn't approach it appropriately because I don't know how the conversation went down. But I do know that if customer support senses anger or hostility, they will be less willing to help.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 08:22 AM
So where does this bit go???
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Yeah, give the little ol' tubby Grumman a chance to show you what she's made of.

I'm sure you will like it when you've flown it.

A LOT
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 08:43 AM
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Remember that "Better" is the enemy of "Good".
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 05:59 PM
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Sometimes it's how you approach things. In some cases it's not the squeaky wheel that gets the oil.
I'm not saying you didn't approach it appropriately because I don't know how the conversation went down. But I do know that if customer support senses anger or hostility, they will be less willing to help.
Something wasn't right and perhaps it was my approach. Calling at the end of their work day probably wasn't a helpful factor either.

The good news is that you guys haven't gotten rid of me yet as they are sending me a new kit as soon as I send the damaged plane back to them.

My expectations have been adjusted so I hope to be reporting happy flights with my Wildcat in the coming weeks!
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:23 PM
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I'm glad we helped turn you back around to give it another try. Plane is very fun.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 06:46 PM
So where does this bit go???
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Just bear in mind........

It may not be perfect when you get it.

But with all the guys on this site helping you....... "WE" can fix it

When it flies.......... you'll love it.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 07:26 PM
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It has to be the most docile and fun warbird on the market.
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 07:28 PM
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My ailerons were also warped... although no where near as bad as yours... I maidened mine with the warps and it has been one of my favorite planes to fly ever since You won't be disappointed
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Old Oct 19, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Thank you again guys. All of you were helpful
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Old Oct 20, 2012, 10:29 PM
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GB,

Glad you're open to giving the Wildcat another look. She's worth it!

I'll have to agree that the customary QC was lacking on these. The ailerons on mine were warped worse than yours, and she had other issues. And yeah, I'd rather have not had to deal with them.

But that's the challenge! Like you, I got a great deal on her, so it was worth it for me to work with her. And it was an excellent learning experience for me!

I used a hair dryer (very carefully!!! ) to take out the warps. That helped. Then I fixed her other issues. Had to really work at trimming her up...more than most of my other PKZ planes. But now that she's "there", I'm really loving her! She's an easy flyer and looks beautiful and very impressive in the air. Other pilots and spectators always turn their heads and admire her when she's going through her paces.

Don't give up! You've got a lot of fun flying ahead of you!
Tom
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 04:11 AM
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What were the settings on the hair dryer? I hope the warp is as low as it was on the right wing so I don't need to worry about it. My fingers are crossed though since I really want to have a great experience with it.
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 09:02 AM
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I had to take warp out of both ailerons and both elevators.

I used high heat setting, but kept the nozzel a safe distance away and kept moving it slowly so I wouldn't overheat the foam.

Apply the heat to the INSIDE of the curve while applying gentle bending pressure. The dryer heats up pockets in the foam, and when they pop, they expand and bend the curve out and straighten the warp.

Just watch carefully. Overheating will either damage the aileron or crinkle and disfigure the paint and smooth surface. Some guys put a damp cloth on the part they're heating to prevent this.

Tom
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Old Oct 21, 2012, 10:50 AM
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just as point of reference my pzt28 viewed from the front has a warped tail rudder to the right a few degrees and it is a sweet straight flying plane. also the left side of the elevator is a bit bowed lower than the other side. i was not happy but was so excited to have her finally i just assembled and threw her in the air. works amazing with barely any trim needed. you would not notice these things if i did not point them out. all in all a wonderful plane to fly. just saying...
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