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Old Dec 12, 2012, 10:03 PM
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Aeronca52 use this link which is via Google translation
http://translate.google.co.nz/transl...p.html&act=url
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
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Does anyone have a plan that shows a plane with a single fuselage but twin vertical stabs with working rudders? This would be a plane like an Ercoupe or a Miles M.28 Mercury...hell, even something not scale but showing dual rudder actuation. Whether ot or OT, need some help here.

NOTE: a P-38 or other twin-boom fuselage doesn't help here, the key is single "boom" back but twin rudders.

Many thanks in advance for any help! Got a stalled project here that I'd REALLY like to get going.

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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:03 PM
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Does anyone have a plan that shows a plane with a single fuselage but twin vertical stabs with working rudders? This would be a plane like an Ercoupe or a Miles M.28 Mercury...hell, even something not scale but showing dual rudder actuation. Whether ot or OT, need some help here.

NOTE: a P-38 or other twin-boom fuselage doesn't help here, the key is single "boom" back but twin rudders.

Many thanks in advance for any help! Got a stalled project here that I'd REALLY like to get going.

Scottrik
Check out this thread:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1759579
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:09 PM
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Here is an unusual one, the Jones S-125, a 20" span scale rubber model from Flying Aces magazine. The plans were cut up and placed on multiple pages of the magazine. I assembled them and copied and flipped the half top view with half a stabilizer to make a full top view and a complete stabilizer. I also added the photo.

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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:29 PM
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To access the back issues on edimodel.it ... From the toolbar, choose download, then documentazione.

I opened the PDF files in Adobe Acrobat, and used the OCR function (set to Italian) to extract the text from the scanned images and re-save them. Then, I can copy/paste sections of text into the Google Translate function.
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Old Dec 12, 2012, 11:37 PM
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Thanks much, Metro. That is kind of how I'd envisioned this but I was REALLY hoping not to hang big ol' horns off the outside of the rudders. May be doomed to that though.

Anybody else know how this can be done?
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 12:53 AM
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I've been thinking about this issue on a Vintage conversion. What I may try might work on a lightweight, but possibly not on anything else that has any sort of control forces. Until I find a better idea, my plan is to have a single servo in the centre of the stab, and have both rudders sprung to move outward (in my case, this will be a simple rubber band from fin to a hook on the outboard side of the rudder), Then the single servo output arm will be attached to the inboard of both rudders by carbon fibre rod. Hence when the rudders move, the forces should be balanced, as one rudder is working against the spring (rubber band) tension, and one with. For a less visible system, it may be possible to adapt this system to bury the servo & pushrod in the stab, and use leaf springs for the spring loading? Just idle thoughts....
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 01:07 AM
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Noisy Muse,

Dual rudder single fuselage

The Schlepp 3605 in this thread:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1292378

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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:45 AM
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Does anyone have a plan that shows a plane with a single fuselage but twin vertical stabs with working rudders? This would be a plane like an Ercoupe or a Miles M.28 Mercury...hell, even something not scale but showing dual rudder actuation. Whether ot or OT, need some help here.

NOTE: a P-38 or other twin-boom fuselage doesn't help here, the key is single "boom" back but twin rudders.

Many thanks in advance for any help! Got a stalled project here that I'd REALLY like to get going.

Scottrik
There are lots of ways, look at Tomahawks build thread for his Plecan Falcon for one. However, the neatest and simplest solution I have seen you will find in detail on Page 8 of this publication: http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_ne...sets/dt162.pdf

It's definitely the one I would use.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 03:55 AM
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There are lots of ways, look at Tomahawks build thread for his Plecan Falcon for one. However, the neatest and simplest solution I have seen you will find in detail on Page 8 of this publication: http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_ne...sets/dt162.pdf

It's definitely the one I would use.
George, the link didn't work for me, could you kindly check please...
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 04:10 AM
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George, the link didn't work for me, could you kindly check please...
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Try it now Brian. Don't know why it didn't work before, it is exactly the same???
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 08:25 AM
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Noisy Muse,

Dual rudder single fuselage

The Schlepp 3605 in this thread:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1292378

Geoff
Many thanks, but does not appear to have functioning rudders. That's the problem I'm facing wth the kit I'm building. Truly, thanks though.

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Old Dec 13, 2012, 08:25 AM
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There are lots of ways, look at Tomahawks build thread for his Plecan Falcon for one. However, the neatest and simplest solution I have seen you will find in detail on Page 8 of this publication: http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_ne...sets/dt162.pdf

It's definitely the one I would use.
THAT looks like it may be a winner. I'll take a closer look at it!
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Does anyone have a plan that shows a plane with a single fuselage but twin vertical stabs with working rudders?
Scottrik
NO plan, but here is a photo. You can see a bowdens to both rudders in elevator. Just insert smaller diameter wire in it, because origilal vire will rub.
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Old Dec 13, 2012, 11:25 AM
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There are lots of ways, look at Tomahawks build thread for his Plecan Falcon for one. However, the neatest and simplest solution I have seen you will find in detail on Page 8 of this publication: http://www.antiquemodeler.org/sam_ne...sets/dt162.pdf

It's definitely the one I would use.
That's the most elegant way to do it that I've seen. The elevator hinges serving as push rod guides...ingenious.

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