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Old Sep 10, 2012, 02:41 AM
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Maybe this short film. Just turn the volume off

http://www.europafilmtreasures.eu/PY...flying_machine
It says the film is french, but that's wrong. It was taken in Rome, during Wright's italian tour. From the aerial view you can also see some roman ruins and the "Aqua Claudia" aqueduct, built by the Emperor Claudius around the years 40-50 after Christ and still perfectly efficient. Sadly, almost all that romantic scenery today is just a concrete block.
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 12:43 PM
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Maybe this short film. Just turn the volume off

http://www.europafilmtreasures.eu/PY...flying_machine
Fascinating, that's the first film I've seen of the Flyer landing, and that must be some of the earliest aerial filming ever done.
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 09:17 PM
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[QUOTE=Thayer;22686561]If you want a great PT-19 kit, you won't do better than the new 1/5 scale kit from Aviation Concepts. it began as a replacement wing or fuselage (I don't remember which) for an old Dynaflite airframe. As these things go, it made more sense in the end to just do the entire airframe.

http://www.hangtimes.com/aviationconcepts.html

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$669 short kit and they are flying off the shelves. Encouraging.
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Old Sep 11, 2012, 05:16 AM
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Here's a little treat from the Frank Zaic Model Aeronautics Yearbook collection. (And by "little" I mean 15inches.) It's a canard glider that I built a copy of several years ago... it floated like a dream until a friend decided he HAD to try it indoors. (Don't try that... it is NOT easily contained in a meeting room or gym!)

I found it both airworthy and beautiful.... enjoy!
where is the c.o.g. for this plane i need help to trim
thanks ed.b.
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Old Sep 11, 2012, 12:05 PM
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where is the c.o.g. for this plane i need help to trim
thanks ed.b.
I don't see it anywhere, either. Maybe you just add clay/plasticine 'til it flies right.

I'm still trying to figure out how Jasco graded their balsa; ie., Long Mr6 Jasco 3" and Long RAF 32 Jasco 2".

Any help with this will also be much appreciated.

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Old Sep 11, 2012, 06:44 PM
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I don't see it anywhere, either. Maybe you just add clay/plasticine 'til it flies right.

I'm still trying to figure out how Jasco graded their balsa; ie., Long Mr6 Jasco 3" and Long RAF 32 Jasco 2".

Any help with this will also be much appreciated.

g
Pretty sure M-6 and RAF 32 are airfoil sections. I assume the "long" parts means they have been stretched.

RAF32 can be seen here:
http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/a...lots/raf32.gif

M-6 here
http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/afplots/m6.gif

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Old Sep 11, 2012, 07:23 PM
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Pretty sure M-6 and RAF 32 are airfoil sections. I assume the "long" parts means they have been stretched.

RAF32 can be seen here:
http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/a...lots/raf32.gif

M-6 here
http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/afplots/m6.gif

Pat MacKenzie
Excellent, Pat.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Although its something I should probably have already known.

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Old Sep 13, 2012, 06:28 PM
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Scientific Plans/Kits

Does anyone know of a comprehensive list of Scientific Kits/Plans...

Have heard that they made a kit of the New Standard D25????

I would appreciate any assistance in this area.

Thanks,
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Old Sep 14, 2012, 01:11 AM
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Does anyone know of a comprehensive list of Scientific Kits/Plans...

Have heard that they made a kit of the New Standard D25????

I would appreciate any assistance in this area.

Thanks,
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It won't be a comprehensive list, but Derick Scott lists a lot of Scientific plans at www.model-plans.co.uk
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Old Sep 14, 2012, 01:46 AM
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I don't see it anywhere, either. Maybe you just add clay/plasticine 'til it flies right.

I'm still trying to figure out how Jasco graded their balsa; ie., Long Mr6 Jasco 3" and Long RAF 32 Jasco 2".

Any help with this will also be much appreciated.

g
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Pretty sure M-6 and RAF 32 are airfoil sections. I assume the "long" parts means they have been stretched.

RAF32 can be seen here:
http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/a...lots/raf32.gif

M-6 here
http://www.ae.illinois.edu/m-selig/ads/afplots/m6.gif

Pat MacKenzie
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Excellent, Pat.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Although its something I should probably have already known.

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I think this is what they look like
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Old Sep 14, 2012, 09:55 AM
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Thanks Skydancer for the lead...

Much appreciated

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Old Sep 16, 2012, 02:24 PM
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Super Saint and Kalpie

Good evening all and I'm now back from my travels for a while so the plans will be a bit more frequent.

This weekend we have the Super Saint and Kalpie from the February 1952 Aeromodeller and two more different models are you ever likely to see together.

The Super Saint is a Class B team racer designed by Ken Marsh. It was designed in 1950 and was entered in a few races but was stopped from getting first place by engine troubles. These were eventually sorted and the plane went on to start winning in 1951 with an ETA 29. An interesting model from the birth of team racing in the UK.


The Kalpie, on the other hand, is an out and out fun free flight model developed for the Kalper 0.32cc diesel motor, a beautiful little motor but not renowned for it's power. The text also recommends enlarging the design by 20% to fit the Dart and other 0.5cc diesels. It was designed by J. T. Robson as a simple to build, trim and fly plane. A beauty she is not, but a functional fun machine to throw around Middle Wallop she is. I have produced both the original and the 120% drawing for you benefit (dead easy when using CAD).

As with all my tracings please be careful if you plan to build from them and double check all measurements before wielding the knife.

Enjoy,

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Old Sep 18, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Ambroid

Bought a big tube of Ambroid. Need it to apply leather fillets to full bodied stunt models. It does not permeate the fillet like CA or others. This allows the fillet to absorbe the dope and not billow at the meet point.

That's all beside the point. I couldn't imagine building a model with it. Now I can hardley wait to go back in time and use the Ambroid alone for a model.

It appears that more than half of the contributors to this forum are building FF models, rubber powered. This is most encouraging as this is the roots of modelling, or at least it was and the discipline req'd to trim and fly such models is advanced skill despite getting on point to building bigger models. I hope to add some bigger plans. I have yet to get any scanned.

QUESTION: When getting a plans scanned, should I ask for a pdf to "also" be saved at a bigger size file than the generous 3mb allowed here so that I can reproduce a print at a higher res later or share at a higher res where it permits?

Thanks, Lazy Bee building balsa Banger

BTW - Does anyone have a scan of the 60 inch Big Lazy Bee Wing Sheet or have a plan sheet for said wing that they will sell? I know that the 72 inch minus 2 rib bays will produce the same effect but it's just not the same.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 08:21 AM
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Welcome and let me introduce RWD-6

Hello to all vintage planes enhusiasts. Your collection and whole this thread is exeptional. Let me share with you something from my collection. This are drawings of RWD-6, polish sport plane which won international tourist aircraft contest Chalange 1932.
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Old Sep 19, 2012, 12:47 PM
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DukeRoger;
Welcome to RCG!
Your drawings of RWD-6 are wonderful!
I am amazed at the details, especially the folding wing.
Thank you
Rick
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