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Old Mar 20, 2012, 12:12 PM
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Edwin Stoffel is well-known as the designer of the famous Wakefield model called "Aristocrat". Another of his designs, which I find even more attractive is his 1949 Flight Cup Winner. Enjoy the article and full-size plan!
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Old Mar 20, 2012, 03:42 PM
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Who could better quality scan this drawing and article? Thanks in advance!

Source - Aeromodeller - November, 1957
Urfin,

Hope this will do. If you do decide to use the plan it is a racing from the original scan so please take care.

The Cougar was designed by T. Stoker for use in the 1956 Gold Trophy but had fuel feed problems on the day (not an uncommon occurrence I know). She has a wingspan of 45" and is designed with a motor of .19 to .29 in mind. All in all a beautiful example of the British Stunter in vogue at that time - before the Fox 35 ruled the roost.

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Old Mar 20, 2012, 07:11 PM
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Urfin,

Hope this will do. If you do decide to use the plan it is a racing from the original scan so please take care.

The Cougar was designed by T. Stoker for use in the 1956 Gold Trophy but had fuel feed problems on the day (not an uncommon occurrence I know). She has a wingspan of 45" and is designed with a motor of .19 to .29 in mind. All in all a beautiful example of the British Stunter in vogue at that time - before the Fox 35 ruled the roost.

Al
As always Al, great work, however I do miss the color.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 12:46 AM
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Eisinger did a Sky Rocket in 1940. Other than that I strike out.

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I had a sky rocket years ago (before it was taken by the sky gods) but had lost the plan so looked on clarich site and that was the only one listed.

Post you Sky rockets I may have the wrong designer
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 02:02 AM
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As always Al, great work, however I do miss the color.
I don't miss the colour but I second the great work (as usual)

Bert
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 02:45 AM
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Urfin,

Hope this will do. If you do decide to use the plan it is a racing from the original scan so please take care.

The Cougar was designed by T. Stoker for use in the 1956 Gold Trophy but had fuel feed problems on the day (not an uncommon occurrence I know). She has a wingspan of 45" and is designed with a motor of .19 to .29 in mind. All in all a beautiful example of the British Stunter in vogue at that time - before the Fox 35 ruled the roost.

Al
Hogal, thank you very much!!! Excellent work.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 03:31 AM
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 04:05 AM
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Well sorry folks, someone has objected to these designs being after 1960 so I will regretfully remove them.
Why is it that only the recent post-'60 plan submissions have been objected to ?

There are many post 1960 plans here ( the previous post, for example ! ) - some were posted right from the start...
... and no-one has complained about those - to date.
At least - none have been removed.

Has a precedent now been set ?

Keven.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Why is it that only the recent post-'60 plan submissions have been objected to ?

There are many post 1960 plans here ( the previous post, for example ! ) - some were posted right from the start...
... and no-one has complained about those - to date.
At least - none have been removed.

Has a precedent now been set ?

Keven.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 08:14 AM
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Will boys and girls here we go again

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Why is it that only the recent post-'60 plan submissions have been objected to ?

There are many post 1960 plans here ( the previous post, for example ! ) - some were posted right from the start...
... and no-one has complained about those - to date.
At least - none have been removed.

Has a precedent now been set ?

Keven.
I believe, regrettably, that the answer is yes.

this can all start with just one knucklehead that won't follow the thread rules for no (post 1960) plans. so he gets him self shutdown. now that hes had his whittle bitty feelings hurt and having nothing better to do he starts hitting that magic moderators button and then the fun begains.

Starcad thank you for all the great plans you have been posting lately some real gems there my my friend. we all hope to see more in the future seriously man 1963 you couldn't see that coming.

Urfin plans dated 1975 are just to new for posting due to possable copyright infingements anything after the year of 1960 is not allowed and likely to bring even more trouble. this thread was set up for pre 1960 plans posting only.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 09:08 AM
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No Elijah. not quite that many out of roughly ten thousand plans I think your off by about nine thousand nine hundred eighty.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 09:33 AM
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Although it doesn't offend me in the slightest to see post 1960 plans here, as the rules for this particular thread do specify pre 1960, is there any way the title of the thread can be altered from "Vintage and Old Time Plans" to "PRE-1960 Only Vintage and Old Timer Plans"? In this way people wouldn't come across the thread and start posting newer plans due to lack of knowledge of the rules. I have no idea how this could be achieved but it surely must be possible?

I am sure there are a lot of post 1960 plans which are both interesting and not subject to potential copyright problems, and I would welcome seeing them posted in a separate thread headed accordingly.
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 09:39 AM
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I agree that with almost 400 pages anyone new to the thread would probably not go study up on rules before getting excited to share a plan they may love.

Anything past 1960 is not really vintage in the sense of the word, but possibly old time since 52 years is a decent age that not all of us get to. Notice I didn't say old timer!

A seperate thread of just 'plans' is a very good idea, and a novel name with warnings about known copyright issues to be avoided would be almost as good as this one.

Fred

EDIT: Happy Birthday to challenger_1 (see post below)!
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 01:02 PM
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Freddie, I'm glad you clarified that statement, as I turned 51 Monday! :P
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Old Mar 21, 2012, 01:19 PM
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Freddie, I'm glad you clarified that statement, as I turned 51 Monday! :P
Damn Youngsters ....

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