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Old Dec 04, 2012, 01:09 PM
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I've recently bought the Phoenix simulator but have for several years been using RealFlight.

My experience with Phoenix is good for fixed wing aircraft but poor for helis but I only spent a short time with the heli simulation. Based on that RealFlight is much more suitable for helis.

The variations in flying venues is fun and interesting though. Graphics are mostly good except for their renditions of water and water landings. I do like it for playing with the planes I have when weather doesn't permit outside flying. It also lets me do things that would be risky with the real thing without fear of expensive repairs and downtime.]
Doh! Now you tell me. I bought Phoenix just to improve my 120 skills but it's really not much help.

+1 My close encounter of the worst kind with the T-28 is an excellent case in point. I'd experienced the "half mile downwind beyond a tree line" scenario quite a few times on the sim before facing it in real life... all that practice saved the day.
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 01:40 PM
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Fly Helis in 10 Easy Steps

Use of the simulator is mentioned here as the first step. Don't completely agree for FPs, but good advice nevertheless.
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 01:51 PM
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Received a Blade 120SR today in a trade. I've been doing land RC for over half my life and a few months ago I ventured in to air. Started off with an Ares Gamma 370 and after getting off to a rough start I picked up a Blade MCX because they pretty much fly themselves and are cheap.

I've flown our demo 120SR and can hover it with the tail boom toward me with the swatch plate on the easier setting.

The one I received had a broken skid plate, split tail boom, and a warped tail rotor. Replaced everything and got it basically trimmed out inside.

Went outside to fly since it seemed to be very calm. Was doing good and was able to compensate for the light wind. There was a strong gust and it ended up smashing my 120SR into the pavement. Turns out it was set to the "advanced" thingy on the swatch plate so I'm switching that back when I install some new blades.
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 03:54 PM
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Actually, if you had your links set on the "long balls" on the swashplate, you are better off leaving them there for outdoor use. It helps you to control in a breeze. Just ensure that there is extremely gentle to no wind at all when you are first learning.
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 08:19 PM
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Yup, don't take it off advanced swash if you're gonna fly it outside... you'll need all the swash authority you can get

... unless it's dead calm out.
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 08:30 PM
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Yupper. I flew outside a couple times. It was very calm, save for an occasional breeze. But that occasional breeze made it pretty risky. I didnt change to the long links though. When the breeze did come, If I didnt set 'er down quickly she would be 50 yards away before you knew it. I am not an experienced pilot. But in the calm, with all that space! That's alot of fun. I normaly fly now only indoors in a space about 20 by 20 but only 16 x 16 usable airspace I am guessing. (feet)
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Old Dec 04, 2012, 09:21 PM
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Actually, if you had your links set on the "long balls" on the swashplate, you are better off leaving them there for outdoor use. It helps you to control in a breeze. Just ensure that there is extremely gentle to no wind at all when you are first learning.
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Hey Sax, Congrats. Army Vet also. WS
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 12:24 AM
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This is definitely something I will need to look into as I wanted it primarily for helis. The only bad thing I heard about phoenix was that the helis weren't that realistic compared with the actual models.

My experience may not be all that accurate since I only played with helis on it for a short time to see what it was like. It could have been that my TX wasn't programmed properly for them but I dunno.
Anyway, with RealFlight and their transmitter the heli simulation was more accurate for me and actually easier to use.

As was also mentioned, I don't like the fact that you have to pay for every upgrade with RealFlight.

I'm really enjoying playing with the Phoenix fixed wing simulations. I find that it is pretty accurate comparison to flying the planes I do have. It's probably a good way to get a preview of how a plane you're thinking of buying will fly. They need more of their more popular models though.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:53 AM
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A friend of mine has the 120 and he let me fly it in his house the other day. I have no heli experience, but I've flown RC planes for years and I actually did a fairly good job flying it...I think I'm gonna get one....
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 09:55 AM
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Well, this is the place to announce that kind of intent! Feel free to stay on here and ask questions whenever you need help.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:00 AM
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Well, this is the place to announce that kind of intent! Feel free to stay on here and ask questions whenever you need help.
Sax, you use that phrase much too lightly. We ALL need help....

WITH THIS ADDICTION
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:02 AM
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Maybe I should restate... Come to this forum whenever you need to commiserate with others who cannot put the helicopter down.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Well looks like I'm selling my 120SR already. Was talking to a friend who is interested in trying out helis and after he decided that a 120SR was going to be his first heli he made an offer I couldn't refuse.

Looks like I'll be flying the store demo model again after all lol
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 11:26 AM
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Ah, shoot... All my helis were used when I bought them. They're good. I also never buy a vehicle new...but, I don't have to put tires on a Blade heli.
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Old Dec 05, 2012, 04:51 PM
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My experience may not be all that accurate since I only played with helis on it for a short time to see what it was like. It could have been that my TX wasn't programmed properly for them but I dunno.
Anyway, with RealFlight and their transmitter the heli simulation was more accurate for me and actually easier to use.

As was also mentioned, I don't like the fact that you have to pay for every upgrade with RealFlight.

I'm really enjoying playing with the Phoenix fixed wing simulations. I find that it is pretty accurate comparison to flying the planes I do have. It's probably a good way to get a preview of how a plane you're thinking of buying will fly. They need more of their more popular models though.
Well I have taken the plunge. Well at least my wife has as she has just ordered it for me. Let's see if I can get through to Christmas without playing on it. It should look awesome rigged up to our 55 inch tele. It was a wedding gift so don't think we are loaded lol.

I've done the trick already to make the HP6DSM work with it just to see how easy it was and it was dead simple. I love the idea of free upgrades and did give real flight a good looking over but the cost difference couldn't be justified for the time being. I'm excited at having a go on some planes and even using the tuition on there.

My name is Matt. I'm an addict
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