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Old Nov 05, 2010, 10:10 AM
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At 300' is very small, but in a sunny day with a blue sky it's ok for me.

As for the TX it's Ver: 2.3, I guess this is the 100mW, I see ''SN:8'' inside the batt cover.

But the manual is not clear with the: ''10mW or 100mW''.

I will tell you later what is the exact mW, a friend of me will come here this week-end and we will take the output mW with is equipment, at the same time I will install an SMA adapter to be able to screw any WIFI antenna available on my TX, they are very cheap, a longer one should give a lot of extra range.
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Old Nov 05, 2010, 12:00 PM
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Interesting, keep us posted please.

There is a built-in range check function in the transmitter under the display menu that reduces the output power so you don't have to walk so far. If your friend has his equipment to make signal strength readings also have him check the output in range check mode if possible.

Thanks, Don

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At 300' is very small, but in a sunny day with a blue sky it's ok for me.

As for the TX it's Ver: 2.3, I guess this is the 100mW, I see ''SN:8'' inside the batt cover.

But the manual is not clear with the: ''10mW or 100mW''.

I will tell you later what is the exact mW, a friend of me will come here this week-end and we will take the output mW with is equipment, at the same time I will install an SMA adapter to be able to screw any WIFI antenna available on my TX, they are very cheap, a longer one should give a lot of extra range.
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Old Nov 05, 2010, 10:04 PM
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I will install an SMA adapter to be able to screw any WIFI antenna available on my TX, they are very cheap, a longer one should give a lot of extra range.
Actually it wont, The antennas you see claiming +x dbi are not proper omni-directional ones the give higher signal strength in some areas and lower in others (Not a good thing for helis).

The lenght of the antenna is determined by the wavelength of the signal (usually a half or quarter wavelength antenna is used) going to a longer antenna will make very little difference unless the current one is the wrong length to start with.
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Old Nov 09, 2010, 10:28 AM
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I Beg pardon for my English , I have to use the translator.
what behaves the helicopter in realities rather then on video from shop?
Cost(stand)s to buy him(it) with transmitter 2801pro or it is enough 2603?
And will approach he beginner?
I only flew on 3D helicopter in Simulator
I well fly on Blade Msr Advise please
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Old Nov 10, 2010, 11:01 PM
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I Beg pardon for my English , I have to use the translator.
what behaves the helicopter in realities rather then on video from shop?
Cost(stand)s to buy him(it) with transmitter 2801pro or it is enough 2603?
And will approach he beginner?
I only flew on 3D helicopter in Simulator
I well fly on Blade Msr Advise please
Welcome,

I think that most of the videos from shops are pretty accurate about this heli. (Have you seen the Wowhobbies 3d video on Youtube? That's crazy stuff!)

If you want to see beginner videos of this heli, you could go to youtube and search 'rafa 4f200'. You'll come up with a few of the videos I've filmed of me learning to fly collective pitch with this heli, having flown only a CB100 in the past (sort of similar to the msr). I haven't posted a video lately, mostly because my tripod is my only consistent cameraman, and I've gotten to where I can fly in an area larger than the camera's frame can film.

I would say that if cost allows, and if you are planning on flying any other Walkera stuff, go for the 2801pro.

As for advice for another beginner, I would say to go join helifreak so that you can watch the 'Finless Bob' videos stored at this link. They will help you begin to learn what you need to know about collective pitch helicopters.
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41692

Simulators are great, but sometimes it's just more fun to have the helicopter there in front of you instead of a computer screen.

Good luck, let us know,

Rafa
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Old Nov 10, 2010, 11:24 PM
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Definitely get the 2801, the 2601 is really hard to program and doesnt give good control over throttle and pitch curves. The 2801 makes it much easier to set up a CP heli especially for a beginner.
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Old Nov 11, 2010, 05:52 AM
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Thank you
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Old Nov 12, 2010, 03:46 AM
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Heres a short video of me doing some sloppy circuit flight indoors this afternoon at our friday arvo flight meet. Flying indoors with the 4F200 made me quite nervous, due to walls, nets etc. Oh well no crashes so im happy

Walkera 4F200 indoors (3 min 18 sec)
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Old Nov 12, 2010, 06:41 AM
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Nice circle flight ,fast pass through.
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Thx AC. I need to tune some headspeed back into my 4F200 now though as im growing a little more confident. At the moment its choked back to 80% at max throttle which keeps is calm but only just has enough pull out to keep me out of trouble. Its still a work in progress.

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Thx AC. I need to tune some headspeed back into my 4F200 now though as im growing a little more confident. At the moment its choked back to 80% at max throttle which keeps is calm but only just has enough pull out to keep me out of trouble. Its still a work in progress.

Mick
Have you try to use smaller pinion? diminish only "one" tooth did make sense.I use CB180 stock motor pinion to replace F200's one & heli is way easier to handle in high speed,also using another 30A Esc did resolve completely heat generated from motor/Esc. Seems Walker Esc is lacking of Amps for the motor(they say 20A but i don't think so...).I can fly 3 packs of lipo without heating the motor and this Esc has a super soft start on throtle input!
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Old Nov 12, 2010, 07:12 PM
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Thx AC ive been looking for a budget priced ESC with soft start. I just purchased two. One for my 4F and one for my HBK2

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I wonder how this heli handles wind in comparison to a 2 bladed heli like the Trex 250?

Also, I wonder what is likely to break in a crash? If just one blade is damaged, would you have to replace the whole set?

Martin, I use my 2801pro on a Trex 450 without any problems. I am it had flown outside 300 ft before. However, it could be that the 2801pro receiver used is better than the unit in the 4F200. I totally agree though that it is not such a good idea to fly such a small heli to outside 300 ft. I am definitely not flying that far with my similarly sized V200D01 at the moment.

Derek
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 03:30 AM
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"She's now got the yellow, plastic blades from the Align 250. Flies nice to this newb."
Hey Rafa, if you wants some more stable (even 3axisgyro disabled!), try the white blades one, they are tip-weighted and gave heli super stability, anyway, heavy blades is a must for multiblade heli.
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Hey AC

Ive been previously using the yellow plastics as well and am quite happy with them, but curiosity got the better of me when you posted the other weighted option. Ive got a set fitted but havnt flown them yet, but I was wondering do you know why each set is marked "A" and "B". Seems a little odd?

Mick
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Old Nov 17, 2010, 06:52 AM
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Hey AC

Ive been previously using the yellow plastics as well and am quite happy with them, but curiosity got the better of me when you posted the other weighted option. Ive got a set fitted but havnt flown them yet, but I was wondering do you know why each set is marked "A" and "B". Seems a little odd?

Mick
Well,seems they label A&B for easier balancing and checking CG instead of putting some red & blue tape.Also, i did cut off 1/2 inch to prevent blade strike on hard landing.These blade are heavier than yellow one and did tame down heli a lot, ideal for flying around backyard.
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