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Old Jun 20, 2010, 06:38 PM
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Want a kit for my 15 year old son to build

I am a somewhat experience, though now outdated, e-flyer. I was flying when lipo batteries were just getting started, and that is when I stopped flying. Too many other demands (three kids, work, mountain bike racing, etc.), kept me from being able to continue with the hobby. Well, now I am back and want to get my son into the hobby. I am a firm believer in building models that you fly, and most of my existing airframes are either from wood kits, or scratch built from plans.

At any rate, I want my son to build a kit that he flies so he can appreciate the work and craftsmanship that goes into the hobby. I was thinking of getting him a Sig LT-25 kit as a trainer to build while I refit my LT-25 (with ailerons) for him to train on. Are there other, maybe smaller, wooden kits for him to cut his teeth on? I realize there are fewer and fewer kits on the market, which is apparently dominated by ARFs.

As an aside, what a great time it is for this hobby! Years ago when I was flying, brushless motors were way expensive and NiCad/NiMH batteries were too (and heavy). I am really looking forward to getting back at it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Greg
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Old Jun 20, 2010, 06:41 PM
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Have a look here--
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1117471
Frank has done a great job of gathering info for you.
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Old Jun 20, 2010, 07:02 PM
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Woah, thanks a bunch. Looks like the Hobby Lobby mini-telemaster would fit the bill, but it is out of stock and on backorder. Anyone know where I might be able to find one laying around for sale?

Greg
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Old Jun 20, 2010, 07:08 PM
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Here you go Greg:
http://www.aerocraftrc.com/planepage.php?id=23

Also the Mountain Models stuff is great. Laser cut and very simple to put together.

http://www.mountainmodels.com/

Mike
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Old Jun 20, 2010, 08:18 PM
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I have a couple of Brian's kits at Mountain Models and enjoy the heck out of them! I was out flying the EZ Cub today and I had a blast. Easy to build and great results. I would really recommend something along his EZ line of planes.

Stevens Aero is another place that makes quality kits: http://www.stevensaero.com Give them a look over too.

House of Balsa makes some pretty quality kits designed by some pretty good craftsmen. http://www.houseofbalsa.com These kits are not specifically for beginners and most are rated as intermediate.

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Old Jun 20, 2010, 10:17 PM
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Alright, you guys rock. Thanks so much. Telemaster and power system ordered for the boy!
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Alright, you guys rock. Thanks so much. Telemaster and power system ordered for the boy!
Depending on how old he is, and therefore his attention span, the Telemaster, with it's stick construction may prove to be a little frustrating for him. The Mountain Models Dandy makes for an excellent 3 channel plane, and if you order the optional sport wing, it turns the Dandy into an excellent flying aileron plane at the change of a wing.

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Old Jun 21, 2010, 09:26 AM
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Thanks for that info Chuck. I live in Albuquerque and know Pat, Charlie, and Ken. They are super folks and run a great business.
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Old Jun 21, 2010, 03:04 PM
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Chuck, if you're going to offer help, at least give him a list with a few more vendors!!

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Old Jun 21, 2010, 03:30 PM
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In my experience, what beginners need above all else is time to think. Most of the traditional powered trainers are much too fast in this regard. That's why when we started working on planes for the training market, we focused on two-meter sailplanes, such as our 2-meter Chrysalis, which is designed to be a good trainer for both building and flying, as well as still being an excellent sport model once you've passed the rank beginner stage.

The other planes that offer excellent stability and plenty of time to think are some of the indoor/backyard/park flyers. For example, our Roadkill Series Piper Cub and Curtiss-Wright "Junior" were designed specifically as trainers. As with all of our kits they are not ARF's, but they are laser-cut and simple and easy to build. Also, their balsa and ply construction makes them easy to repair, and their extremely light weight makes them very durable and resistant to impact. If it's light enough, it doesn't hit very hard!

Please forgive the "shameless plug", but all of the above is based on years of experience with helping beginners. If .40-sized gas models were the best way to teach folks how to fly, that's what we would have developed.

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Old Jun 21, 2010, 07:38 PM
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Well said Don,

I myself learned on a Goldberg glider way back in the day. I found that I could fly it just as well when hand launching after awhile. I loved that plane, and was sooo sad when I folded the wings on a launch one day!

I will be there on the sticks with my son and his mini-telemaster. I think a R/E plan that can float with either no or low power will give him something to stay interested. Its hard to compete with video games these days.

Greg
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Old Jun 21, 2010, 10:13 PM
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The main thing is if he wants to do it. Doing a project like this with your kid, or letting him do it could be very rewarding, but if it isn't his thing, it isn't his thing. Not everyone is as into these things as we are, and that's alright. Just something to keep in mind from my point of view.

I'm 100% self trained on a .40 sized balsa glow ARF I put together when I was 15, almost 15 years ago now. My step dad was kind of curious about it, but for the most part it was just my thing. My first test flight was by myself and other than a somewhat rough landing, it went perfectly fine. The reason for my success is because I took the time to learn the theory behind everything first, to visualize what the stick inputs and control surfaces would do.
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Old Jun 21, 2010, 10:47 PM
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if u scratch build yourself, why not build a plane with your son--his design, your expertise. of course you'll have to enjoy a better relationship with your teenager then most parents to make this bareable.
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Old Jun 22, 2010, 10:43 AM
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I thought about building one from scratch, but I want him to build this mostly by himself, so I figured a laser cut, proven design would be easier to get started. He says he is really interested in doing it, and I believe him. I hope that he doesnt get too frustrated, but I plan to help him build when he needs it. The covering should be interesting. I remember what my first few covering jobs looked like and they were not pretty!

If he is truly interested after this kit, then we can move on to building from some plans I have laying around. I remember what it was like when I first started, and only had one plane. When it was out of commission, I was stuck! Always nice to have another one on the board.

Greg
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