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Old Jun 14, 2010, 12:55 PM
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There is no Rudder channel on the Champs brick.

I looked for it, I couldn't find it. Unless there is some switch to turn it on that Horizon isn't telling us about, the Brick is 3 channel.

Keep your green dots, for now.
Right I got that but use that third channel for ailerons instead of rudder as the ailerons would allow tighter turning.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 12:58 PM
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Right I got that but use that third channel for ailerons instead of rudder as the ailerons would allow tighter turning.
That's hard to do because of the brick location. Hooking the Pushrod and having it work properly would be tough.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 02:31 PM
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Everybody knows that if ya wanna go faster, just paint it red!

And put duals on it, of course.
Olthump - what material did you make your struts out of? Very nice job!!
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 02:46 PM
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I made my exhausts of .062 Black wire insulation with the wire pulled out. That way IF it should bump the nose they will flex rather than crush.
Pictures to come along with a detail addition list.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 02:47 PM
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Olthump - what material did you make your struts out of? Very nice job!!
Thanks. 1/16 balsa. Either ca soaked or fine cf rods for reinforcement. Attach with foam safe ca.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 02:49 PM
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Thanks. 1/16 balsa. Either ca soaked or fine cf rods for reinforcement. Attach with foam safe ca.
So no problems with the extra/added weight? I was thinking of using balsa, but thought it might add too much.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 04:12 PM
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So no problems with the extra/added weight? I was thinking of using balsa, but thought it might add too much.
The Champ doesn't seem to really notice anything less than two or three grams of weight gain. I added struts to mine made from four pieces of 0.05" CF rod and the Champ didn't even notice. And my wings are far stiffer now, to boot.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 04:53 PM
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what positive or ill effects do the stiffer wings cause, if any?



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The Champ doesn't seem to really notice anything less than two or three grams of weight gain. I added struts to mine made from four pieces of 0.05" CF rod and the Champ didn't even notice. And my wings are far stiffer now, to boot.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 06:46 PM
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There is no Rudder channel on the Champs brick.

I looked for it, I couldn't find it. Unless there is some switch to turn it on that Horizon isn't telling us about, the Brick is 3 channel.

Keep your green dots, for now.
the rudder channel is the same as an aleron channel,( rt stick rudder). It is a 3 channel brick, yes. Throttle, Elevator and rudder. Someone mentioned using the rudder channel for ailerons instead, and then fixing the rudder straight.

I don't think this plane will fly well with that type of setup as it probably needs the rudder to make the turns more so than ailerons would.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 07:47 PM
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The Hyperion 160's are great batts was flying mixed throttle closer to top end for 90% of 10 minute flight and hadn't hit LVC.

Climbs a lot better with these batts - come on GWS prop hurry up lol
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 08:13 PM
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Razor, Thanks for the reviews on the Hyperions. My Hyp 160s just came in today as well. Looking forward to flying with them. My only other batteries for this plane are one of the stock 150 and a turnigy 160. I have heard that the Hyperions are really good!
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 08:19 PM
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the rudder channel is the same as an aleron channel,( rt stick rudder). It is a 3 channel brick, yes. Throttle, Elevator and rudder. Someone mentioned using the rudder channel for ailerons instead, and then fixing the rudder straight.

I don't think this plane will fly well with that type of setup as it probably needs the rudder to make the turns more so than ailerons would.
The Ailerons are in the top of the fuse, the Brick and elevator are in the bottom. Hooking up the Pushrods alone would be more trouble than this is worth.

Modding a RET 3 channel plane to still have 3 channels but AET would be silly, since it's easier to to make it 4 channels with an AR6400 and a remote aileron servo.

Even if it flew better with Ailerons instead of rudder, using the installed brick isn't the best way to do it.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 08:25 PM
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No worries


So far I am impressed - doesnt make any faster, but thats expected, but power is definitely there. The GWS prop and this batt, or the 240's which I have yet to wire up will be a great combo as others have reported



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Razor, Thanks for the reviews on the Hyperions. My Hyp 160s just came in today as well. Looking forward to flying with them. My only other batteries for this plane are one of the stock 150 and a turnigy 160. I have heard that the Hyperions are really good!
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Old Jun 15, 2010, 07:44 AM
Can we lift the embargo?
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Well the swapping of channels (Rudder for Aileron) was an idea but evidentally not a good one.
I have a 5043 w/prop adapter on the way and I'll let you know how much difference it makes.
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Old Jun 15, 2010, 08:41 AM
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I haven't even flown my Champ yet - just took it out of the box last night and went straight to bashing. I made some struts out of coffee stir-straws. Let me tell you, it was a challenge trying to find an adhesive that would stick to plastic straws!! I tried superglue, CA, hot glue, and UHU. Eventually a combination between hot glue and UHU worked, but it was a pain.


Next bash will be wheels, decals, and maybe paint. I suppose I should also try flying the Champ at some point!
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