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Old Jun 07, 2010, 03:56 PM
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Hobbyzone Champ Mods

Hobbyzone Champ Mods


Didn't see any threads on the Hobbyzone Champ in the Mods department so thought I'd start one up. If there is let me know.

Of course you can...

-use a better TX (DX6i, DX7, LPD5M, DX5E or any DSM2 TX) use a little mixing/dual rates etc.

-adjust the control horn positions for more response


-maybe go brushless (if you have please post!!)

-get a bigger battery or use a smaller one too(Hperion and Turnigy and the list goes on)
Hobby King List, ( I would stick with 240 and under)
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...figuration.asp

Turnigy 160 30c(not really 30c but it's cheap enough )
Hyperion HYPERION G3 CX 0160 MAH 1S 3.7V 25C/45C SINGLE CELL W/UM CONNECTOR
Hyperion link 2
Multiple Battery Charging at one timehttp://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10621&Product_Name=2_Pin _JST_plug_with_6_x_Pico_plug_charging_harness

Floats http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...&postcount=582

PARTS at My atomic also available on EBAY and Horizon Hobby too.
prop_with_spinner http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?..._spinner_champ
gear_box_w_motor http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?..._w_motor_champ
pushrods_w_accessories http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?...essories_champ
bare_fuselage
main_wing http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?...ain_wing_champ
complete_tail http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?...ete_tail_champ
main_landing_gear_set http://myatomic.com/catalog/viewsku?...gear_set_champ

On Board Video
Various Cams...
http://www.actionfigurelover.com/act...car-key-camera
-different props
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...postcount=1063
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Old Jun 07, 2010, 09:33 PM
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The Hyperion G3 CX 0160 Mah battery is also $7.99 ea vs $12.99 for the E-Flite 150 Mah at my LHS.
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 02:47 PM
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Was flying my Champ this AM. Coming out of a power dive into a loop, and just BARELY hit the upright of a soccer goal. Tore the right wing off at the root. The rest is still attached to the fuse, but the right wing ripped off.

Can I CA it back on? Will it be strong enough to take loops, etc?

Anyone take the wing OFF the Champ yet? Is it glued on or taped or ??

Wasn't ready to start (re)building yet, but I'm out of choices...

Suggestions?
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 02:54 PM
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Kenstogie.,
I have a group of mods that I will post when I get them drawn up.
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 02:56 PM
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Was flying my Champ this AM. Coming out of a power dive into a loop, and just BARELY hit the upright of a soccer goal. Tore the right wing off at the root. The rest is still attached to the fuse, but the right wing ripped off.

Can I CA it back on? Will it be strong enough to take loops, etc?

Anyone take the wing OFF the Champ yet? Is it glued on or taped or ??

Wasn't ready to start (re)building yet, but I'm out of choices...

Suggestions?

You can glue it back on, but its very likely to fail in the air next time. I would suggest adding a piece of carbon fiber rod under the wings to strengthen it back up if you do glue it. Make sure you use foam safe CA and foam safe accelerator on it too.

You can also get the wing by itself to replace:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HBZ4920

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Old Jun 08, 2010, 03:42 PM
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How is the wing attached to the fuse? Glue? Double sided tape?

What's the best way to get it off w/o damaging the fuse?

Should I put a fiber tape "spar" on the bottom of a new wing before attaching it?
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 04:04 PM
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Flyboy it's attached like all the other micros are, by a very thin double sided sticky tape. Just very gently and carefully work it off of the fuse. And I'd advise doing that and replacing it entirely. I can't see it ever being as strong by gluing it.

Hehe, and then stay higher up when doing loops and well away from objects like a soccer or football goal.
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 04:24 PM
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How is the wing attached to the fuse? Glue? Double sided tape?

What's the best way to get it off w/o damaging the fuse?

Should I put a fiber tape "spar" on the bottom of a new wing before attaching it?
The new wing will be fine without any reinforcement. I was only suggesting reinforcement if you glue the wing back together.

It is attached only by double sided tape. Just be careful and easily work the wing off of the airplane.
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Old Jun 08, 2010, 04:34 PM
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Flyboy, I would order a new wing AND fix the old one. I would use a couple of bamboo toothpicks and CA (foam safe) them into the fuse side first. Then after the CA sets, dry fit the right piece of wing. When everything matches up, then use CA and a little bit of TP (Toilet Paper) if not a perfect match. The only caution here is that CA takes a long time to set on the inside of the foam, so once you get everything aligned let it cure at least overnight. You may also want to put some clear tape across the break. The weight of the CA and toothpicks should not significantly affect the balance. If it breaks, then you will have a new wing (previously ordered) to replace. I would bet the repair would last for weeks or more as long as you don't try flying into another object! Also, if you replace the wing, I would put a clear tape spar on the bottom of the wing. Just be careful when applying so that you don't tape a twist or bend into the wing. Good luck!

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Old Jun 08, 2010, 06:05 PM
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Was flying my Champ this AM. Coming out of a power dive into a loop, and just BARELY hit the upright of a soccer goal. Tore the right wing off at the root. The rest is still attached to the fuse, but the right wing ripped off.

Can I CA it back on? Will it be strong enough to take loops, etc?

Anyone take the wing OFF the Champ yet? Is it glued on or taped or ??

Wasn't ready to start (re)building yet, but I'm out of choices...

Suggestions?
Broke both sides off mine.
I cut some of the clear plastic (that all new junk comes in from the store) into strips, used clear double backed taped it to the wing then applied clear packing tape over whole assembly. Somewhat like a splint, it has been very solid and has over 20 flights on it. No paint is needed and from a distance you can’t tell, up close not so pretty.
Then fly it like you stole it
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Old Jun 09, 2010, 11:40 AM
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I got a look at Carl T's mods and they are really going to trick this baby out and improve its durability
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Old Jun 09, 2010, 11:56 AM
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Any one is any mixing on champ on programmable TX?

Anyone try UMP51 motor or know the piñon count? I think it's the same motor as sukhoi but I am not sure if piñon count is same as UMP51. But if it were would give the champ a little more juice coupled with GWS 543 prop and Hyperion batt.


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Old Jun 09, 2010, 01:00 PM
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Anyone try UMP51 motor or know the piñon count? I think it's the same motor as sukhoi but I am not sure if piñon count is same as UMP51. But if it were would give the champ a little more juice coupled with GWS 543 prop and Hyperion batt.
I have a P-51 motor in my Champ. The stock motor failed relatively quickly on me. It was a drop-in replacement, fits perfectly. The power lead is a bit longer on the P-51 motor.

I don't have any way to accurately measure the exact thrust, but I'd say that it's in the 1:1 area.

I am using the stock prop and 160 mah Turnigy and Poweredge batteries.
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Old Jun 09, 2010, 03:54 PM
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Cool

does it climb any better?




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I have a P-51 motor in my Champ. The stock motor failed relatively quickly on me. It was a drop-in replacement, fits perfectly. The power lead is a bit longer on the P-51 motor.

I don't have any way to accurately measure the exact thrust, but I'd say that it's in the 1:1 area.

I am using the stock prop and 160 mah Turnigy and Poweredge batteries.
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