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Old Jul 03, 2010, 12:18 AM
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Dang, Tower said they might have them by the end of June and now they are saying Mid-September. I received the servos and props and my motor is on the way with no airframe. Where else can it be purchased?
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Old Jul 03, 2010, 11:43 AM
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When I saw this in a magazine, I thought it was a hotliner. Could it be flown as such? Or is the airfoil just not designed for it. I need something to take out to the beach (slopes) when it's to windy to fly my other stuff. I like the Blizzard, but composite is more appealing to me than foam.

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Old Jul 03, 2010, 11:48 AM
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Hi Rishelman.

The Rifle really isn't a hotliner. Sure, it'll shoot skyward until you cannot see it (which won't be very long), but the wing loading is too high to do any 'gliding.' It's not the airfoil, it's the wing loading. The landing approach is so long you'll need a big, grassy area (such as a regular R/C flying site) to land. I can't picture anything like that on the beach.

Now, if you're interested in speed...
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Old Jul 03, 2010, 05:14 PM
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Jon,

Great job on the review and I have wanted one of these small composite planes for a few years now. I can see which one I will purchase.

Thanks

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Old Jul 04, 2010, 09:26 AM
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no one seems to have the recommended motor in stock. I have the plane ready to go ,just need the right motor for it. I may just sell it because I'm sure my old eyes won't be able to see it.
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Dang, Tower said they might have them by the end of June and now they are saying Mid-September. I received the servos and props and my motor is on the way with no airframe. Where else can it be purchased?
Just a thought, maybe Kissfan could PM Ran4bass?

Cool plane, to fast for me...

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Old Jul 04, 2010, 05:19 PM
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I have one NIB

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Old Jul 04, 2010, 06:00 PM
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how much wind can this plane handle comfortably?
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 09:00 AM
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Is this model something to be flown on a folding prop ?
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 10:16 AM
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how much wind can this plane handle comfortably?
In my experience, the Rifle penetrates the wind very well. It's razor thin wing and all around small profile lets it cut right through. We did fly it one evening when the winds were 15-20 MPH and gusty but the Rifle really paid little heed to the winds. It is pretty slippery for sure.

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Is this model something to be flown on a folding prop ?
IMO, I suppose you could fly it on a folding set-up but I am not sure how it would be advantageous? I have a few other air frames which DO use folders but they are either capable of power-off thermalling or a hotliner type aircraft? With both activities, a folding prop has merits. The Rifle is really not designed for either thermalling or the high speed antics of a hotliner though, again IMO.
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 10:18 AM
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I was thinking in terms of not breaking the prop on belly landings.
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 10:23 AM
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Sure thing! I would think a folding prop would hopefully cure that problem, if it is indeed a problem.

As I mentioned in my review, I have yet to break a prop on landing though? And the grass I have been flying off of is for sure on the long side. My Rifle doesn't tend to slide in this grass at all but instead it kind of sticks and flips when it finally drops into it .... and yet no prop breakage on mine yet.
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 01:40 PM
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how much wind can this plane handle comfortably?
cuts like a knife! Ive flown in 20-30mph no problems.. really helps slow it down on landing
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 04:34 PM
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thanks for info guys - sounds kick a.s
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Old Jul 06, 2010, 09:25 PM
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Any suggestions for a comparable Hobby King brushless motor?

Turnigy KB20-40L

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Old Jul 06, 2010, 10:15 PM
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I looked at a few APC folding props, but none of them really looked suitable. Also, seems like a hassle. When the Rifle was first in development, all of the test flying was done in winter/early spring months here in the Midwest. That means temps in the 40's at best and frozen, clumpy grass. Then, we broke a prop just about every landing. We've been doing more testing recently and I've been flying my own Rifle quite a bit and hardly ever a broken prop landing in the summer grass. Also, the landing skids aren't necessary if landing on soft grass. They really helped when the ground was hard, but don't do much of anything in grass so you don't really need to bother with them.

As for flying in wind, I've been doing lots of flying in 12-15 mph winds. No problem. Helps the launch and landing. Otherwise, the Rifle doesn't know it.
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