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Old Nov 15, 2012, 09:38 PM
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No shims on mine. Ive heard of others that dont fly quite right out of the box though, Its possible some need shimming.

Arctery - Same old 16/25/2 (old as the hills motor thats been in 4 different models and gets an ass wooping in each and still keeps on cranking! ) KPG25 5.2:1 6S 1600 45C (2x3S) ICE100 lite with a 14.5x14 slim RFM trimmed to 14" on a 36mm +5 degree spinner.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 11:41 PM
Livin it UP when Im goin DOWN
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Arctery - Same old 16/25/2 (old as the hills motor thats been in 4 different models and gets an ass wooping in each and still keeps on cranking! ) KPG25 5.2:1 6S 1600 45C (2x3S) ICE100 lite with a 14.5x14 slim RFM trimmed to 14" on a 36mm +5 degree spinner.
Sure, man!
My slow November brain interpreted it as a direct drive setup
My bad.
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Old Nov 15, 2012, 11:58 PM
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Think im gonna get a V tail wasp fuse to stick my spare wing too. Then set it up purely to do eggbeaters and other dumb stuff
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 01:12 AM
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Nice plan. Wonder how much free space there is in the fuse after tail servos are mounted....
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 02:51 AM
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Im thinking 2 D47s shoved up the boom somewhere. Only ~500w on an outrunner and AN folder for power. Something light and flicky, My 6S 1kg+ one is great fun and grooves really well, but its heavy and doesnt have the same spritelyness with the thumbs in the corners as a light weight wasp.
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Old Nov 16, 2012, 04:17 AM
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The V Tail Swift fuse is a bit narrower then the T Tail. Jacko, I got one on the bench if you want to bring some gear to test fit and do some thinking

I'm putting my old 2W-20 on 4S setup in my V Tail and probably only one tail servo, will make carbon arms and pair the linkage together.

I'll post some pics of my new T Tail Swift soon, going to be running an out runner on 5 or 6S and one of DUP's 6x10 or 7x10 folders.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:07 PM
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I was able to rebuild my swift after last stupid crash I had sometime this past summer.
I was slow putting my hand on the stick and she nosed in.

Right about when i was ready to put old gear in it, I got in a trade Mega 20-22-2 2875kV and 5mm shaft. So instead my proven 30A, 700W folding prop setup I went with pylon setup.
Had little hard time with the motor diameter, but was able to fit it in. Only concern I had was lack of space around the motor and blocked air vents. I also got 50A ESC with extended wires, so battery fits in front of it. For the prop I went with 5x5 and the plane rocked. I flew it for couple of weeks like this, but needed more.
Saturday I changed ESC to 100A and prop to 5.25x6.25.
I love it.
I can actually see plane leap forward when I move the stick from 3/4 to full throttle.
When I checked the numbers on 1800mAh 4s today I got 80A and 1100W. This tells me I have room for more prop.
I don't thing this plane will ever see folder

Rob
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Old Nov 19, 2012, 10:59 PM
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Rob,

Was 1100W static?

What RPM on APC E 5.25X6.25


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Old Nov 19, 2012, 11:39 PM
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Gryphon,
No idea on RPMs. My meter is shot.
And yes the numbers are static.

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Old Nov 19, 2012, 11:53 PM
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Hi Rob,

Assume 30,500 RPM (static) till you see otherwise.
That is my best guess based on recent multiple tests with that prop.

If your motor was in a Stryker, I would push you for 50% more AMPs for single passes but this application is way different.

Name of the game: cooling for motor.

Have fun,

Gryphon
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Old Nov 20, 2012, 06:10 AM
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Gryphon,
I ran it like that on Sunday.
I do get some air in. My spinner is only 32mm dia. and is about 3mm away from the nose.
There is a slight gap between fuse and motor at the vents. I actually had to grind some of the material away when I was installing the motor for the first time.
The temp outside was in mid 40s.
Motor was at 140s after good hard 6 min flight.

I'll keep an eye on it. I don't want to fry it that's for sure.

Rob
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 12:25 AM
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Hey guys,

Last few weeks I have been building a new Swift in between work. Decided to try something a little different. Inspired by the German Speed Cup planes, I wanted to try a an outrunner in the nose instead of an inrunner. I used Hyperion DS-11TMB servos all around this time, didn't trust the 09's after the pot issues I had with my last Swift. I will be running a Hyperion HS-3026-1600kv motor with a 6 x 10 Carbon Folder setup (DUP's special) on 5S initially. 3 + 2 2250mAh 65S Nano-Tech lipo's. Machined up a mount, offset slightly to keep the thrust angle the same as the stock mount, not sure if this will be correct or not, but only one way to find out. I will drill and tap M3 screws after its had a paint to make sure it cant spin or move incase the epoxy and milled fibre doesn't hold. Pitch speed calculates out quite quick, I'm curious to see how quick it can go.

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Need to tidy up inside and give the nose a quick touch up and it will be ready to maiden.
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 12:28 AM
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Very very nice work.


DS11 = DS09 with different case and gearset The innards are identical.
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 12:32 AM
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Thanks, don't tell me that , I have 20+ 11's, never had any drama. Only ever had 3 x 09's and two played up. Oh well, it is what it is now.

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Old Dec 16, 2012, 01:31 AM
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Hey guys,

Last few weeks I have been building a new Swift in between work. Decided to try something a little different. Inspired by the German Speed Cup planes, I wanted to try a an outrunner in the nose instead of an inrunner. I used Hyperion DS-11TMB servos all around this time, didn't trust the 09's after the pot issues I had with my last Swift. I will be running a Hyperion HS-3026-1600kv motor with a 6 x 10 Carbon Folder setup (DUP's special) on 5S initially. 3 + 2 2250mAh 65S Nano-Tech lipo's. Machined up a mount, offset slightly to keep the thrust angle the same as the stock mount, not sure if this will be correct or not, but only one way to find out. I will drill and tap M3 screws after its had a paint to make sure it cant spin or move incase the epoxy and milled fibre doesn't hold. Pitch speed calculates out quite quick, I'm curious to see how quick it can go.
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Need to tidy up inside and give the nose a quick touch up and it will be ready to maiden.
Beautiful engineering m8 as usual HPR5 would have been the go to glue that mount I hope it hold out fine
you running the YEP 100 Amp speedy?
Let me know when you maiden it I'll come get some video
Cheers
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