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Old Sep 05, 2010, 02:00 AM
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Flaps and spoilerons were set up in the Skysurfer using a DX7 radio. Spoilerons activate off the flap switch and the flaps run off the gear switch. That's a function of using 6 channel receiver. However with programming and mixing I disabled flaperons (ailerons going down) I mapped the flaps (i.e., spoilerons) to the gear switch (flaps) and set it up so I have two position spoilerons and two position flaps operating off the flap switch. The full flaps are deployed with the gear switch. Confused? No problem, you should try to program it.

To summarize, the plane is setup with two position spoilerons and and two position of flaps off the flap switch. Full laps operated independently with the gear switch.
So can you still operate the ailerons when they are in spoileron mode?
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Old Sep 05, 2010, 07:49 AM
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So can you still operate the ailerons when they are in spoileron mode?
Yes, you can still operate the ailerons but on full up spoilerons the mechanical limit of the linkages becomes a concern so it is important to avoid binding the servos.
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Old Sep 05, 2010, 12:00 PM
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OpenShot Update

Dowloaded OpenShot for Ubuntu last night to give it a whirl and confirmed that you CAN do multiple video streams stitched together. If you upgrade to the latest version of Ubuntu (10.0.4 LTS) you can download OpenShot from the built-in Software Download Tool. It is a pretty nice editing tool and very intuitive. The only problem I ran into was when I upgraded my Ubuntu from the older 8.0.4 LTS version. When the upgrade was completed (2 hours later) and it restarted, it would not start up again due to a corrupted MBR. I had to use my Windows XP Disc in Recovery mode to rebuild the MBR. Computers are so frustrating sometimes .

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Old Sep 05, 2010, 02:30 PM
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Flap and spoileron maiden video

This morning I thought I would get out before the 20 mph winds came.

So, I flew the Skysurfer with flap and spoileron programming. With modifications to wing control surfaces it required quite a bit of trimming to get it flying right again. I edited out all those scenes. The hat cam is still a work in process so a lot of video was deleted as well where the plane wasn't in the frame. That said, the maiden proves the full flaps are most beneficial to land in the tree lined backyard. However, the flaps and spoilerons will be explored but in a more open area so I am not dealing with dodging trees and farm buildings.

By the way, I processed this in Google Picasa 3 movie creator which allows adding pictures and title slides.

Skysurfer flap and spoileron maiden (5 min 25 sec)
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Old Sep 05, 2010, 06:27 PM
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This morning I thought I would get out before the 20 mph winds came.

So, I flew the Skysurfer with flap and spoileron programming. With modifications to wing control surfaces it required quite a bit of trimming to get it flying right again. I edited out all those scenes. The hat cam is still a work in process so a lot of video was deleted as well where the plane wasn't in the frame. That said, the maiden proves the full flaps are most beneficial to land in the tree lined backyard. However, the flaps and spoilerons will be explored but in a more open area so I am not dealing with dodging trees and farm buildings.

By the way, I processed this in Google Picasa 3 movie creator which allows adding pictures and title slides.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10r02okl1II
It defiantly looks like the way to go when landing in a tight area.
I fly at one field where the flaps will make the difference.
The plane looked quite stable on the approach.
Were there any handling characteristic changes to be aware of?

Jim
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Old Sep 05, 2010, 06:36 PM
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It defiantly looks like the way to go when landing in a tight area.
I fly at one field where the flaps will make the difference.
The plane looked quite stable on the approach.
Were there any handling characteristic changes to be aware of?

Jim
Jim,

It was stable with full flaps and you still have full range of aileron movement. I flew this PM in 20 mph winds at our flying club. It was a hoot landing with full flaps although it won't make the gusty winds go away.

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Old Sep 05, 2010, 09:21 PM
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Here is flight on a windy day that I talked about in the previous post. In the first launch attempt I forgot to hook up the ailerons. Wow, the little rudder doesn't do much in a 20 mph wind. In the video I DID connect the ailerons. It flies much better.

Windy day Skysurfer Landing full flaps (1 min 42 sec)
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Old Sep 06, 2010, 02:08 PM
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what a nice slow landing well done
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Old Sep 06, 2010, 02:59 PM
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what a nice slow landing well done
Thanks, it helped that when I landed it was a steady wind.
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Old Sep 06, 2010, 09:01 PM
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Very impressive with the flaps on landing! Although, it looked more like you were parking the plane than landing it

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Old Sep 06, 2010, 10:04 PM
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Very impressive with the flaps on landing! Although, it looked more like you were parking the plane than landing it

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KMan,

The wind helped with "parking" the plane.

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Old Sep 06, 2010, 10:07 PM
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Skysurfer -- just landing with flaps and spoilerons video

I had some time late in the day to practice landing with flaps and spoilerons. You can really bring it down fast and still maintain control.

I was bringing it down very close to my pole barn, but the control was always there. It's a hoot to fly this way.

Enjoy the video, I trimmed or deleted all scenes except takeoffs, approaches and landings. Enjoy.

No flaps, it floats forever.

Flaps fully deployed, it is very controllable and can land in a tight spot.

Flaps and position 1 on spoilerons, just a hoot landing in a very short area. You have to power up so it doesn't sit down too soon.

Flaps and Position 2 on spoilerons takes away too much aileron control. They really aren't needed.

Skysurfer -- just landings with flaps and spoilerons (2 min 59 sec)
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Old Sep 07, 2010, 12:29 AM
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What's the saying about hitting the broadside of a barn? I'm going to have to get my rear in gear and build my Sky Surfer that's still in the box and add flaps. How can this 'cheap' plane get any better? Your vids have me sold!
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Old Sep 07, 2010, 12:35 AM
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What's the saying about hitting the broadside of a barn? I'm going to have to get my rear in gear and build my Sky Surfer that's still in the box and add flaps. How can this 'cheap' plane get any better? Your vids have me sold!
Go to my blog and all the mods are in one place.

Yes, it's really a fun plane. I just ordered night light strips from HK so this will become a night flyer as well.

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Old Sep 07, 2010, 12:32 PM
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Here is the associated hat cam video from the previous video to provide a different perspective. NOTE: the date on the first slide of the video has a typo. It should be Sept. 6 not 5.

Bill

Hatcam backyard landing Skysurfer with flaps (5 min 39 sec)
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