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Old Sep 09, 2011, 08:22 PM
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Thanks erkq.

also, I forgot to ask, can you give me a LINK for a upgraded control hinges/Control horns ie.... Dubro?

I read that the included ones' are not safe at all, prone to future failure.....

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seems like the inrunner motors (~2000-2200kv) motors are all out of stock???? :-(

If you go to the first few posts you will see pictures of the Dubro control horns packages with PN. The bigger horns shown come with larger screws which better accommodate the thicker surface of a foam control surface then you cut down the horn for the size of the plane.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 08:56 PM
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I just bought a used 2000kv Inrunner,
Can I just mount that inside the Bixler Original Foam motor mount?
what glue (hot glue?) do you guys use to mount that motor in the foam tunnel (motor mount)..... I'm not using any custom made motor mounts for the Inrunner.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 09:21 PM
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Thanks erkq.

also, I forgot to ask, can you give me a LINK for a upgraded control hinges/Control horns ie.... Dubro?

I read that the included ones' are not safe at all, prone to future failure.....

p.s.
seems like the inrunner motors (~2000-2200kv) motors are all out of stock???? :-(
The Bix comes with a motor and prop, and a nice one for being an el-cheapo IMHO. Yes, Dubro horns. And, get the Dubro press-on things that attach the control rods to the horns. The stock ones screw on instead of press on and I lost the rudder (fortunately not the elevator). I've been using those since 1979 and haven't had one let go yet. But I also use Locktite Blue on the set screw that holds the control rod.

For the hinges, I just used Blenderm. You can get it at your drug store or get "hinge tape" from Dubro. They slap their name and brand on Blendern. Tape is great and so much simpler than cutting in hinges. Just be careful to get it in the bevel of the hinge. I use a tapered pencil eraser to press it in. After writing all this, I think the first page has all this stuff?
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 09:48 PM
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I just bought a used 2000kv Inrunner,
Can I just mount that inside the Bixler Original Foam motor mount?
what glue (hot glue?) do you guys use to mount that motor in the foam tunnel (motor mount)..... I'm not using any custom made motor mounts for the Inrunner.

Hot glue may melt if the motor gets hot. I would suggest using Plumbers Goop (dries overnight) but use a little hot glue (low to medium temp) to position it while it cures. Works great on the inrunner mounting and CNC machined mount that I use with the Microdan motor.
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 11:41 PM
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Is this the Version 1 SkySurfer?

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00mm_KIT_.html


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Yes. It is a V1-SkyS
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Old Sep 09, 2011, 11:52 PM
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A buddy of mine has one... I don't see where that ACT system does anything. Sounds good on paper though. Plus his has a brushed motor.... it's a dog with no ailerons to boot. Its a good starting point though, much like the SS/Bix needs improvments - this one will as well.
Anyone that flies the SC will tell you to certenly disable the ACT as it will cause as many crashes as it supposidly will prevent. As for being a dog, guys on the SC forum are flying theirs at 80MPH>> Course this is with the wing flattened & shortened and BL Motor. Also lots of posts on mods to put ailerons on it....

Back OT. Hooked up all the electronics (motor & servos) today, everything working great... Time to put everything inside the plane now. Still waiting for my CF to beef up the spar & hor/vert stabilizers... Watching me build my SS is like watching mold grow...
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 12:33 AM
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Thanks for suggestions, that's quite information overload for me. BTW, what are the considerations as RPM per volt (KV) rating is concerned? Isn't going over 3000 KV at 3S getting at too high RPM?

At any rate, my Bixler will carry GoPro HD cam (and maybe FPV kit later) for aerial photography so I prefer reliability. Crash would be costly for me.
Manevil, you may want to look at post 8012 where StarHopper gives a great review/lesson for picking alternative motors....
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 12:46 AM
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Hot glue may melt if the motor gets hot. I would suggest using Plumbers Goop (dries overnight) but use a little hot glue (low to medium temp) to position it while it cures. Works great on the inrunner mounting and CNC machined mount that I use with the Microdan motor.
What Prof says along with the max diameter (I believe) for the motor should be around 26mm to 28mm. Otherwise you will need to do some mods to the opening for the motor. I tried to look at some earlier post to remember what the proper name for this part of the SS that holds the motor but without success..
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 02:10 AM
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Manevil, you may want to look at post 8012 where StarHopper gives a great review/lesson for picking alternative motors....
Ron
No need to do that. Lots of my post has to do with getting into appropriate size range and finding applicable Kv rating, when you're startin' out raw and going shopping. The list of motors just published (summary of this whole massive thread) already narrows the field, both fitting our plane, and range from sublime to Wowzer Kv-wise!
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 02:26 AM
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What Prof says along with the max diameter (I believe) for the motor should be around 26mm to 28mm. Otherwise you will need to do some mods to the opening for the motor. I tried to look at some earlier post to remember what the proper name for this part of the SS that holds the motor but without success.. :censored:
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Hey Prof! (I think it was you);
Who makes that 6x4 Sports prop you raved on awhile back when we's talking on 'em? (Can't find the post)
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 07:05 AM
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Hey Prof! (I think it was you);
Who makes that 6x4 Sports prop you raved on awhile back when we's talking on 'em? (Can't find the post)
APC 6x4 Sport (nitro) prop. Available at a hobby shop near you or direct from APC.
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 08:00 AM
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APC 6x4 Sport (nitro) prop. Available at a hobby shop near you or direct from APC.
Hark! I got the right one, then.
I'm ordering a few props to do some testing on...plus want a couple of those just for the performance. (1 plus backup)

Also occurred to me, for my learning stage I've only got the one 5x3 that came with the Bix, & if it goes bad I'm kinda SOL so want to get a spare or two for that also. Hopefully, one of better quality than that flimsy thing. I've been looking but, lemme tell ya....ain't many of 'em around!
Got another idea in mind but, will hold off on that until I can scratch up a couple drawings.

Meanwhile, kinda OT but very relevant - re prop testing. For various motor/power etc data I know about watts & current draw & all that. But what kind've instrument is used for measuring thrust? And where, relevant to the plane or test bed, is whatever kind of sensor they used placed to take the readings? Is the sensor a pitot tube, or some kind of 'sail' arrangement, or what?? Any of you guys got this kind've stuff, and (with a po' boy's economy in mind) can make some recommendations for a testing setup?

TIA!
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 08:07 AM
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Meanwhile, kinda OT but very relevant - re prop testing. For various motor/power etc data I know about watts & current draw & all that. But what kind've instrument is used for measuring thrust? And where, relevant to the plane or test bed, is whatever kind of sensor they used placed to take the readings? Is the sensor a pitot tube, or some kind of 'sail' arrangement, or what?? Any of you guys got this kind've stuff, and (with a po' boy's economy in mind) can make some recommendations for a testing setup?

TIA!
Check THIS out using a fish scale. The developed thrust will be less when in the air as compared to when static but comparing one set up to another is relevant.
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Old Sep 10, 2011, 08:31 AM
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OK, here we go......
I've found what I think is a good 5x3, only it's 5.5" long. *LOL*
If I got one of those & cut it down to 5 by clipping 1/4" off the ends, using toe or fingernail clippers for the uniform roundish cut; which of these cuts would be best for maintaining prop (tip) efficiency?
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