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Old Sep 06, 2011, 02:00 AM
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Oh, good. I'm glad I'm not the only girlie girl around here.
The only girlies' here use gyros.
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 03:56 AM
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The only girlies' here use gyros.
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AJ... That's my line. but you recently said that you use one for a tail heavy model. As Gene once called me.... You 'tart'...
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 04:16 AM
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AJ... That's my line. but you recently said that you use one for a tail heavy model. As Gene once called me.... You 'tart'...
Guilty, as charged. 2500GENE is only guilty of only one thing - EVERYTHING.
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 07:45 AM
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question,
once the fuselage is glued together,
how hard is it to change out the elevator and rudder servos (version 1 SkySurfer).
....looks impossible because its' buried deep inside the fuselage....
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 07:53 AM
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question,
once the fuselage is glued together,
how hard is it to change out the elevator and rudder servos (version 1 SkySurfer).
....looks impossible because its' buried deep inside the fuselage....
Are you talking about a kit where you install the initial servos and then glue up the fuse? If so, when you glue up the fuse use only spaced out spots of glue (like that packaged with the GWS kits or rubber cement) and then tape the seams. This would allow an "easy open" with a #11 Xacto knife or razor blade if it becomes necessary.

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Old Sep 06, 2011, 07:58 AM
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aeronca,
thanks for the reply.

What if the Plane was all assembled from factory,
will I have to pry open with hobby knife like you said to
change out the stock elevator and rudder servos?
I dont want to cut out a lot of foam :-)

p.s.
I want to replace those 2 servos with micro Metal ones.
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 08:08 AM
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aeronca,
thanks for the reply.

What if the Plane was all assembled from factory,
will I have to pry open with hobby knife like you said to
change out the stock elevator and rudder servos?
I dont want to cut out a lot of foam :-)

p.s.
I want to replace those 2 servos with micro Metal ones.
I've not had to split one of these fuelages yet, but I would assume a razor blade or Xacto #11 knife carefully run precisely along the seam would work. Do several "light" passes to make the slice cleanly and eliminate tear-out. Be careful of any wires (if possible) that may be glued or taped along the inside of the seam. However, even if you cut the insulation on a wire attached to something you don't want to remove, it would be easy to fix.

Good luck!

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Old Sep 06, 2011, 09:05 AM
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If it's factory installed servos, you should be able to reach inside thru the cockpit with a wide-bladed flat screwdriver & pop 'em loose using steady persistent pressure -- they're only hot glued in. And only a small half-pea-sized dollop applied & quickly popped in will hold the replacement securely. Some like to wrap the servo with blue painter's tape first to give a little better 'bite' for the glue, but I'd reserve that for units you have better access to for easier future removal. The trick here is just enough glue to hold while they're working, but not so much as to make removal difficult.

And let me add - if you're replacing just to install better servos, & have had no failures? I'm using the stock supplied units & so far at least, they're performing flawlessly! (Of course with my typical luck...soon's I brag on 'em they'll go sour, & I should start praying the plane survives and the Tx doesn't explode in my hands.)
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 09:14 AM
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Hi folks,
Ordered a Bixler from the Aus warehouse a few weeks back (even though it was on back order). They arrived in the warehouse this week and received confirmation that it was being shipped today! Think I have read through this entire thread since placing the order and I am looking forward to the build and especially the maiden. Thanks for all the advice!
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 10:42 AM
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And let me add - if you're replacing just to install better servos, & have had no failures? I'm using the stock supplied units & so far at least, they're performing flawlessly! (Of course with my typical luck...soon's I brag on 'em they'll go sour, & I should start praying the plane survives and the Tx doesn't explode in my hands.)
My elevator servo lasted about 30 flights before it just quit working on me. Now that I know whats its like to lose an elevator in flight I would recommend everyone atleast put a quality servo on the elevator. I guess you could make it home with no rudder or 1 aileron missing. But that Elevator is kinda important LOL. I was lucky not to wreck the plane
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 12:42 PM
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My elevator servo lasted about 30 flights before it just quit working on me. Now that I know whats its like to lose an elevator in flight I would recommend everyone atleast put a quality servo on the elevator. I guess you could make it home with no rudder or 1 aileron missing. But that Elevator is kinda important LOL. I was lucky not to wreck the plane
Kewl! But in all honesty you gotta admit, same thing could've happened with World's Greatest Servo!
(There, that oughta fuel the fires for the bone-pickers!) *LOL*

Bu-u-u-u-ttt....note to self: Change servo after 29 flights.
(Just to be on the safe side, don'tcha know.)
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 01:23 PM
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Kewl! But in all honesty you gotta admit, same thing could've happened with World's Greatest Servo!
(There, that oughta fuel the fires for the bone-pickers!) *LOL*

Bu-u-u-u-ttt....note to self: Change servo after 29 flights.
(Just to be on the safe side, don'tcha know.)
We don't trust the wing spar. We don't trust the control horns. We don't trust the foam where it hinges without tape. We don't trust the double sided tape holding the spar covers on the wing. Hell, we don't even trust the decals from coming off.
Why would we then trust the stock servos?
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 01:33 PM
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We don't trust the wing spar. We don't trust the control horns. We don't trust the foam where it hinges without tape. We don't trust the double sided tape holding the spar covers on the wing. Hell, we don't even trust the decals from coming off.
Why would we then trust the stock servos?
This is a great post! What the hell are we doing with this thing??? It can be a great little bird, though... potential!
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 01:38 PM
Why so serious?
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This is a great post! What the hell are we doing with this thing??? It can be a great little bird, though... potential!
It's a real nice hunk of foam. Just buy the kit version and put the good stuff in.
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Old Sep 06, 2011, 04:02 PM
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Well I now have 4 spare servos, 2 push rods, a 1900kv motor, ect. Hardware that came off my ARTF Bixler. Yep I shure should have got the kit version.
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