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Old Sep 05, 2011, 08:33 AM
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There are 3 components of a fire , fuel , ignition , oxygen.

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I disagree, there is at least oen other component....

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Old Sep 05, 2011, 09:26 AM
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If the wind is swaying tree branches and there are "waves" running on meadows, the wind is too strong for the plane. SkySurver/Bixler/whatever is quite light and not very aerodynamically "clean" so it quite struggles against wind. Some light to medium breeze is quite enjoyable, though, and it soars pretty well on the slope.

There's also the skill of the pilot and the plane set up. I crashed my plane in wind that I would certainly manage fine later on.
I fly the model airplane for many years and the wind is not so much a problem. The Sky Surfer is one very good plane in wind compared to many others. It can power off and fly through very strong wind but you must know how to do this.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 09:31 AM
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Beta 1400

BTW, I don't see this mentioned anywhere, but the SkySurfer/Bixler plane is marketed as Beta 1400 in the Czech Republic by RCM Pelikán company. They carry kits, ARF and RTF as well as spare parts. So if you're in EU, this is another way to order. Be warned though, they have switched to V2 few months ago.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:03 AM
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Great. BTW, would you guys recommend Bixler KIT or ARF versions? I had the same plane (sold under different name) for 8 months so I know some of the issues, but I'm bit afraid of motor installation. I think the ARF doesn't include ESC/BEC so I can buy one I like.
My Bix from HK was a ARF, but if I were to get another it would be a kit. Why? Because I had to change all of the hardware except the hatch magnets. The servos, push rods, horns were junk.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:10 AM
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My Bix from HK was a ARF, but if I were to get another it would be a kit. Why? Because I had to change all of the hardware except the hatch magnets. The servos, push rods, horns were junk.
Hm, does the kit contain something to install the motor? I mean those little plates that the motor is bolted to.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:15 AM
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BTW, I don't see this mentioned anywhere, but the SkySurfer/Bixler plane is marketed as Beta 1400 in the Czech Republic by RCM Pelikán company. They carry kits, ARF and RTF as well as spare parts. So if you're in EU, this is another way to order. Be warned though, they have switched to V2 few months ago.
Now that is something! (Checked (no pun intended) your link)
Just a new decal set, eh? I like the ones on the nose - looks kind've 'sharkey'. ~8)
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:19 AM
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BTW, I don't see this mentioned anywhere, but the SkySurfer/Bixler plane is marketed as Beta 1400 in the Czech Republic by RCM Pelikán company. They carry kits, ARF and RTF as well as spare parts. So if you're in EU, this is another way to order. Be warned though, they have switched to V2 few months ago.
another
http://www.toprc.eu/en/beta-1400-rtf-mode-2-p01481
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:22 AM
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Speaking of decals - AJ! Re the Page1 reference, I did eventually wind up going ahead with the decoupage idea. Some of the other offered solutions were tried, and they just kept popping back up after a short time, so decided to give the decoupage one shot as a final test before just ripping 'em all off & painting.

Happy to report they're still hanging tuff - tho with only 3 flights on it now, in pretty stressing conditions though. At this point it's looking good but want to get at least a few more in before I give it a full endorsement and execute part deux -- a short video covering the process along with a couple of drawbacks encountered during; and hopefully to replace Ms. LaLaland's video up there. ~8)
Will keep you posted as developments occur.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:25 AM
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I just received my Bixler last week from Grayson, and it is a V1. I know that's not HK, which you asked about, but it is from a new shipment to Grayson which had been "out-of-stock" for several weeks.

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Are you sure you got your Bixler from Grayson?
I could not find it on their site.

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Old Sep 05, 2011, 10:38 AM
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Add GOPRO on top of my bixler here is a quick fly video
Hobbyking bixler EPO ARF gopro 2nd pass look for missing EDF,, JET Glider & CESSNA400?? (9 min 41 sec)
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 11:06 AM
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There are 3 components of a fire , fuel , ignition , oxygen.
This is not necessarily true. Oxygen is just one possible element of oxygenation. There can be others. Just think of dynamite or solid rocket propellant. From what I see of these demonstrations, the LiPo batteries have their own internal oxygenation.
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Old Sep 05, 2011, 11:15 AM
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Are you sure you got your Bixler from Grayson?
I could not find it on their site.

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Jim,

My apologies!!! I DID get the Bixler RTF from HK. I also got the Hawk Sky RTF in from Grayson last week - MY MISTAKE. Chalk it up to CRS!! Both are RTF's.

My intent is to do a comparison between the two flying-wise, since I want to give the "better" one to someone else as a "trainer" for learning to fly. Although I received them both last week, I am just getting around to putting them together due to weekend guests who left a short while ago.

Interestingly, I have so far discovered that the Hawk Sky's wing-joining spar is shorter by about 7-1/2" than the Bixler's, but it is nearly 8mm thick compared to the Bixler's meager 4mm (which will get reinforced). The control rod (for the elevator) on the Hawk Sky came out of the box flapping in the breeze, but I've got that epoxied back in place now. I just finished putting the DuBro #237 control horns on the Hawk Sky's tail feathers and will next epoxy the stabilizer/elevator and fin/rudder to the fuselage.

My initial impressions of overall "quality" of each plane are not formed yet since I haven't started on the Bix, but I intend (hopefully) to finish both builds today.

Sorry again for the bad information on where I got The Bixler!

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Old Sep 05, 2011, 11:51 AM
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Jim,

My apologies!!! I DID get the Bixler RTF from HK. I also got the Hawk Sky RTF in from Grayson last week - MY MISTAKE. Chalk it up to CRS!! Both are RTF's.

My intent is to do a comparison between the two flying-wise, since I want to give the "better" one to someone else as a "trainer" for learning to fly. Although I received them both last week, I am just getting around to putting them together due to weekend guests who left a short while ago.

Interestingly, I have so far discovered that the Hawk Sky's wing-joining spar is shorter by about 7-1/2" than the Bixler's, but it is nearly 8mm thick compared to the Bixler's meager 4mm (which will get reinforced). The control rod (for the elevator) on the Hawk Sky came out of the box flapping in the breeze, but I've got that epoxied back in place now. I just finished putting the DuBro #237 control horns on the Hawk Sky's tail feathers and will next epoxy the stabilizer/elevator and fin/rudder to the fuselage.

My initial impressions of overall "quality" of each plane are not formed yet since I haven't started on the Bix, but I intend (hopefully) to finish both builds today.

Sorry again for the bad information on where I got The Bixler!

Aeronca

Looking forward to your final report.
Good flying.

Jim
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Looking forward to your final report.
Good flying.

Jim
Hopefully he'll be back on his medication before making that report.
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Fly in the early morning calm or the evening calm. Make your maiden less of challenge.
At our field the morning works well, but the evening is not recommended because there are a couple of bears in the patch of woods 500 feet away off to the left. They spend time in the hazelnut groves off to the right and the corn fields behind us. In the morning there are always a number of fliers so the they just ignore us. In the evening a flier would likely be alone and, while staring up at his plane, would not see a bear approaching.

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