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Old Dec 14, 2012, 05:20 PM
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What is the best and cheapest metal gear servo for the bixler?
I've used these with good results.

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Old Dec 14, 2012, 06:52 PM
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+1. I use those on my assassin combat plane. I don't know how that helps because I've never ran into anybody or has anybody run in the me yet. I've slammed that thing into the ground so hard It scared the grass for half an acre. But I did have a servo strip out for the first time last time flying and it put my plane into the ground ( a Bix 2 ). I asked my flight instructor. "Do plastic geared servos ware out faster than the ones with metal gears" he said. "Plastic gives, metal doesn't, metal gears wear out faster."

I now realize I asked the wrong question. It should've been 'do plastic gears tearout easier than metal gears'.

Here is how this mechanical failure is changing the way I'm seeing my future purchases. I'll buy kits whenever I can. But when the deal is right on a ARF, I'll take that, and change out the parts that I don't trust.COM

Eugene, it was so good to see your avatar on my screen again. You're now in the Cape I believe. I have distinguished myself at my flying field, the RC Hawks Airpark in North Cape. I am said to have had the most spectacular crash that the group has ever witnessed. So how did I manage that, another mechanical failure. I'm buddy boxed up with Ped Coles my flight instructor, I do the 10 yards to see if its flying straight, a comment on the throttle rapidly, I'll slight right rudder to offset the torque. I eased back on the elevator in an effort to do a smooth scale takeoff and just as I did the big 5 foot wide 5 1/2 pound Cessna 182 hooked right.I went Full up elevator.

On its full speed rise it hit the last post in the chain-link fence and exploded upward into nine parts, many of which took their time settling to the ground. The two set screws in the front landing gear had backed off letting the front wheel move side to side about 15 or 20. When I relieved the weight of front wheel slightly it hooked right.

This coming Thursday night at seven o'clock. I will attend my first meeting of the RC Hawks flying club to receive the official certificate Pilots license.

Use Sir turned me on to a HeadsUp RC here in Florida and I thank you again for that. I can get what I want in 72 hrs. or less if they have it and they have a lot.

DJ
BTW: I am now known as the 'kamikaze Ace', HE WARES NO HELMET!

Here is the plane a bad servo took down. It's fine now.
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Old Dec 14, 2012, 07:17 PM
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+1. I use those on my assassin combat plane. I don't know how that helps because I've never ran into anybody or has anybody run in the me yet. I've slammed that thing into the ground so hard It scared the grass for half an acre. But I did have a servo strip out for the first time last time flying and it put my plane into the ground ( a Bix 2 ). I asked my flight instructor. "Do plastic geared servos ware out faster than the ones with metal gears" he said. "Plastic gives, metal doesn't, metal gears wear out faster."

I now realize I asked the wrong question. It should've been 'do plastic gears tearout easier than metal gears'.

Here is how this mechanical failure is changing the way I'm seeing my future purchases. I'll buy kits whenever I can. But when the deal is right on a ARF, I'll take that, and change out the parts that I don't trust.COM

Eugene, it was so good to see your avatar on my screen again. You're now in the Cape I believe. I have distinguished myself at my flying field, the RC Hawks Airpark in North Cape. I am said to have had the most spectacular crash that the group has ever witnessed. So how did I manage that, another mechanical failure. I'm buddy boxed up with Ped Coles my flight instructor, I do the 10 yards to see if its flying straight, a comment on the throttle rapidly, I'll slight right rudder to offset the torque. I eased back on the elevator in an effort to do a smooth scale takeoff and just as I did the big 5 foot wide 5 1/2 pound Cessna 182 hooked right.I went Full up elevator.

On its full speed rise it hit the last post in the chain-link fence and exploded upward into nine parts, many of which took their time settling to the ground. The two set screws in the front landing gear had backed off letting the front wheel move side to side about 15 or 20. When I relieved the weight of front wheel slightly it hooked right.

This coming Thursday night at seven o'clock. I will attend my first meeting of the RC Hawks flying club to receive the official certificate Pilots license.

Use Sir turned me on to a HeadsUp RC here in Florida and I thank you again for that. I can get what I want in 72 hrs. or less if they have it and they have a lot.

DJ
BTW: I am now known as the 'kamikaze Ace', HE WARES NO HELMET!

Here is the plane a bad servo took down. It's fine now.
Your post made my day. Thank you for that.

Truth be told I haven't flown in over a year due to commitments up north and on moving down here and look forward to getting back into it all.

Congratulations on your accomplishments.
I hope to meet up with you and we can fly together some day.

PS: No one has called me Eugene since my mother passed away 4 years ago. Actually brought a tear to my eye remembering......but I can't talk like that cause I'm a big tough guy.
Thanks for the memories.

Eugene.
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+1. I use those on my assassin combat plane. I don't know how that helps because I've never ran into anybody or has anybody run in the me yet. I've slammed that thing into the ground so hard It scared the grass for half an acre. But I did have a servo strip out for the first time last time flying and it put my plane into the ground ( a Bix 2 ). I asked my flight instructor. "Do plastic geared servos ware out faster than the ones with metal gears" he said. "Plastic gives, metal doesn't, metal gears wear out faster."

I now realize I asked the wrong question. It should've been 'do plastic gears tearout easier than metal gears'.

Here is how this mechanical failure is changing the way I'm seeing my future purchases. I'll buy kits whenever I can. But when the deal is right on a ARF, I'll take that, and change out the parts that I don't trust.COM

Eugene, it was so good to see your avatar on my screen again. You're now in the Cape I believe. I have distinguished myself at my flying field, the RC Hawks Airpark in North Cape. I am said to have had the most spectacular crash that the group has ever witnessed. So how did I manage that, another mechanical failure. I'm buddy boxed up with Ped Coles my flight instructor, I do the 10 yards to see if its flying straight, a comment on the throttle rapidly, I'll slight right rudder to offset the torque. I eased back on the elevator in an effort to do a smooth scale takeoff and just as I did the big 5 foot wide 5 1/2 pound Cessna 182 hooked right.I went Full up elevator.

On its full speed rise it hit the last post in the chain-link fence and exploded upward into nine parts, many of which took their time settling to the ground. The two set screws in the front landing gear had backed off letting the front wheel move side to side about 15 or 20. When I relieved the weight of front wheel slightly it hooked right.

This coming Thursday night at seven o'clock. I will attend my first meeting of the RC Hawks flying club to receive the official certificate Pilots license.

Use Sir turned me on to a HeadsUp RC here in Florida and I thank you again for that. I can get what I want in 72 hrs. or less if they have it and they have a lot.

DJ
BTW: I am now known as the 'kamikaze Ace', HE WARES NO HELMET!

Here is the plane a bad servo took down. It's fine now.
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Congratulations Sculptor on getting your pilots license. I say never let a crash keep a good man down.
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Sculptor,

Congrats on the new pilots license !
The Bix-II is great looking. What kind of paint did you use?
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Old Dec 15, 2012, 08:24 PM
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Sculptor,

Congrats on the new pilots license !
The Bix-II is great looking. What kind of paint did you use?
Shimmy, thank you. The great humanitarian and poet Helen Keller, in the studio of the great sculptor Melvina Hoffman while running her hands over the bust of Keats turned and remarked to Melvina "life is either a grand adventure or it's nothing."

DJ
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Well it's been another couple of months and I finally got to attempt my second (and third) RC flight today..

And it was AWESOME! No crashes this time. The Bixler handled great in just a very gentle breeze. I can see now why people say what an easy plane it is to fly, although a very large part of my success was thanks to the FMA Co-Pilot stabilisation system that we fitted which worked like a charm! Took the pressure right off to know that I could just let go of the sticks if I got into trouble and it would level itself out.

First flight I had the co-pilot set to maximum which turned out to be too much, even with full control deflection it still only turned enough for very wide lazy circles. Lucky I had a couple of people spotting for me as a few times the plane went out of my field of view because I couldn't turn it tightly enough.

Second flight we toned the sensitivity down and it was much better, I could actually bank quite steeply and keep the plane in view. Most of my flying was pretty low as it was easier for me to look straight ahead. I did try to go up a bit higher and stall it to see how it behaved and it was amazingly stable. Not sure how much of that is the plane and how much is the co-pilot.

Landing was a no-brainer, just line it up and cut the throttle for a gentle touchdown.

Man I've got the bug now that I know I can do this.. flew with a 1.8 Ah battery which didn't last long enough, glad I ordered a 2.2 Ah battery so next time I'll be able to put a couple of batteries through it.

Thanks to everyone who provided help and encouragement

I've got crappy video of the flights from my old camera, might upload them soon if the quality is good enough to see anything. Good excuse to upgrade to a better camera!
Hi everyone, I haven't posted in this thread for ages and it looks to have quietened down a lot, but just wanted to check back in with an update to my progress a little over a year after my first successful RC flights, with the awesome Bixler!

I've recently had the wing tips clipped and upgraded to a 2200kv motor and that has brought renewed interest in the otherwise slightly too sedate stock Bixler. I'm now up to about 13 planes but the upgraded Bixler is still one of my favourites to fly.

Seem to have just about all of my rookie crashes out of my system, nowadays it's only when I'm trying something stupid that I come a cropper

Anyway have a short video of the clipped Bixler in a quick blast around the local park. Thoroughly recommend the upgrade to anyone who's Bixler is gathering dust at the moment.

Clipped wing Bixler flight (3 min 46 sec)
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Old Dec 16, 2012, 05:29 PM
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Sculptor,

Congrats on the new pilots license !
The Bix-II is great looking. What kind of paint did you use?
The orange paint is Krylon shortcuts. It's acrylic-based or water-based is called glow orange. But when dry rub off on your fingers, so I covered it with men wax water-based polyurethane to seal it and it remained flat. The blue stripe is actually a peel and stick pinstriping I bought from a boat shop.

I'm spending more and more time trying to learn how to actually finish foam one of the best things you can do to any foam plane, especially one that is white is coat with acrylic floor wax. It's as thin as water, but leaves a acrylic film on the plane and leaves it shiny. So now I don't get fingerprints all over the foam handling the plane. Another thing once it's coated with floor wax it can be painted with any kind of paint.

Nothing wants to stick epo foam. The O stands for 'olafin' which is the plastic used in commercial carpets in high wear and high stain areas, restaurants, banks, etc. But mop and glow acrylic floor wax or Hathaway floor finish sticks pretty well to the EPO foam.

Thanks for your interest,
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The orange paint is Krylon shortcuts. It's acrylic-based or water-based is called glow orange. But when dry rub off on your fingers, so I covered it with men wax water-based polyurethane to seal it and it remained flat. The blue stripe is actually a peel and stick pinstriping I bought from a boat shop.

I'm spending more and more time trying to learn how to actually finish foam one of the best things you can do to any foam plane, especially one that is white is coat with acrylic floor wax. It's as thin as water, but leaves a acrylic film on the plane and leaves it shiny. So now I don't get fingerprints all over the foam handling the plane. Another thing once it's coated with floor wax it can be painted with any kind of paint.

Nothing wants to stick epo foam. The O stands for 'olafin' which is the plastic used in commercial carpets in high wear and high stain areas, restaurants, banks, etc. But mop and glow acrylic floor wax or Hathaway floor finish sticks pretty well to the EPO foam.

Thanks for your interest,
DJ
Yes, the pure acrylic floor wax works well since only ammonia will remove it. It can also be used to think water based paints for spraying.
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Hi everyone, I haven't posted in this thread for ages and it looks to have quietened down a lot, but just wanted to check back in with an update to my progress a little over a year after my first successful RC flights, with the awesome Bixler!

I've recently had the wing tips clipped and upgraded to a 2200kv motor and that has brought renewed interest in the otherwise slightly too sedate stock Bixler. I'm now up to about 13 planes but the upgraded Bixler is still one of my favourites to fly.

Seem to have just about all of my rookie crashes out of my system, nowadays it's only when I'm trying something stupid that I come a cropper

Anyway have a short video of the clipped Bixler in a quick blast around the local park. Thoroughly recommend the upgrade to anyone who's Bixler is gathering dust at the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFO2uzBpzc
Impressive flying and equally as impressive control system. Nicely done. Where did you clip the wings? At the end of the ailerons?
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Impressive flying and equally as impressive control system. Nicely done. Where did you clip the wings? At the end of the ailerons?
Hi prof, thanks, we clipped them at about 1 inch past the end of the ailerons as you can see in the below picture. Cheers.
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Hi prof, thanks, we clipped them at about 1 inch past the end of the ailerons as you can see in the below picture. Cheers.
Thanks.
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Old Dec 17, 2012, 08:12 AM
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I simply could not bring myself to clip the wings of a perfectly good Bixler.
Perhaps if crashed broke a tip, THEN I might do it!
-B!
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Hi everyone, I haven't posted in this thread for ages and it looks to have quietened down a lot, but just wanted to check back in with an update to my progress a little over a year after my first successful RC flights, with the awesome Bixler!

I've recently had the wing tips clipped and upgraded to a 2200kv motor and that has brought renewed interest in the otherwise slightly too sedate stock Bixler. I'm now up to about 13 planes but the upgraded Bixler is still one of my favourites to fly.

Seem to have just about all of my rookie crashes out of my system, nowadays it's only when I'm trying something stupid that I come a cropper

Anyway have a short video of the clipped Bixler in a quick blast around the local park. Thoroughly recommend the upgrade to anyone who's Bixler is gathering dust at the moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFO2uzBpzc
That was an awsome bit of flying there, congrats,also,i like your flying style,ate up alot of sky.
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