Seems the climate data at NASA is even more of a mess than the now discredited CRU stuff.
The real big difference is that NASA seems willing to come out and admit it......

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...mategate-data/

When a govt hands out information for the sole purpose of manipulating public opinion it is called propaganda.

If they can use the machinations of the entertainment industry it is called powerful propaganda.

Welcome to the world..

Here is an interesting report on climategate.

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress....re-called-for/

Jim,

I skimmed the document and it comes across as a political whitewash meant to maintain the status quo and protect reputations of institutions and individuals.

I fail to see the hard science you would expect to see with the assertions that are made in the statement. Probably a case of using the same flawed measuring stick to evaluate the the flawed data, there is no way to find anything other than parity.

It is a little incredulous given the admissions of the IPCC in recent months, and the poor peer review used in regards to the data in question. This looks like a continuation of the same bad practices.

There is billions invested in the banking system in carbon trading credit derivities.
If you think the banking system after spending billions to get this fake science and carbon tax trojan horse though is going to give up just cause science shows its is all a fake three card trick then your living in coo coo land

In this Alice in wonderland real world we really live in the banks decided that carbon is bad and they gonna tax you for it through the governmennts which the banks control
Science has nothing to do with the argument no matter how many science papers you throw at this fake AGW science as the banks rip your faces So either copy the Obamination and how he bends over and you too bend over to take your medicine or figure out how your gonna change the regime that rips your pockets for all your cash

Ralf

Their house of cards just keeps collapsing.

I wonder what those that are so sure about man made global warming will say about this. I imagine some will probably find a chart that disproves this, (even if the chart is about five years old)


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...fore_your_eyes

"Barring an about face by nature or adjustments, it appears that for the first time since 2001, Arctic Sea ice will hit the “normal” line as defined by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) for this time of year."

Originally Posted by mikefast

I wonder what those that are so sure about man made global warming will say about this. I imagine some will probably find a chart that disproves this, (even if the chart is about five years old)


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/a...fore_your_eyes

"Barring an about face by nature or adjustments, it appears that for the first time since 2001, Arctic Sea ice will hit the “normal” line as defined by the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) for this time of year."

It's just more proof that global warming created the climate change and the increased freezing accompanied with global cooling that is a side affect of climate change created by global warming. Duh!

Originally Posted by RumRunner_1492

It's just more proof that global warming created the climate change and the increased freezing accompanied with global cooling that is a side affect of climate change created by global warming. Duh!

Yep. That sounds logical. At least to the Rev. Algore I guess.

I love this quote at the end of the journal…

“A great responsibility rests on the shoulders of climate science: to provide the planet’s decision makers with the knowledge they need to secure our future. The challenge that this poses is extensive and some of these decisions risk our standard of living. When the prices to pay are so large, the knowledge on which these kinds of decisions are taken had better be right. The science must be irreproachable.”

Boy, that solves it for me, the science is irreproachable, because it must be!

I am still awaiting the prosecution of those who deliberately misrepresented data. Think it'll happen?

Originally Posted by bildo baggins

I am still awaiting the prosecution of those who deliberately misrepresented data. Think it'll happen?

In your dreams

Ralf

Originally Posted by treehog

In your dreams

Ralf

I probably won't dream about it but I will be paying attention. Same as I do most other ridiculousness

I guess Al Gore could be likened to Halliburton in this case