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Old Mar 07, 2011, 09:45 AM
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Thanks, Tim, for sharing info and photos on yours! It looks great, and sounds like it flys great if lt flys slower than the NVs.

You are soooooooo clever about the around the world semantics! You really got me on that one.

I like your Orange color. I assume that's paint. Spray paint and I are not good friends. I use Sharpies whenever I can. I wonder what an orange highlighter would do on foam like that. Guess I could try a scrap and see how it turns out.

Jim
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Old Mar 07, 2011, 10:03 AM
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Thanks, Tim, for sharing info and photos on yours! It looks great, and sounds like it flys great if lt flys slower than the NVs.

You are soooooooo clever about the around the world semantics! You really got me on that one.

I like your Orange color. I assume that's paint. Spray paint and I are not good friends. I use Sharpies whenever I can. I wonder what an orange highlighter would do on foam like that. Guess I could try a scrap and see how it turns out.

Jim


The orange is cheap acrylic craft paint. Thinned with Windex and sprayed with an airbrush.

Gordon was kind enough to cut the parts for me and I assembled it the week of the KEIF meet in Williamsport PA and flew it for the first time there.
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Old Mar 07, 2011, 12:50 PM
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Jim,
Spray painting is pretty easy. Besides, going the Sharpie route isn't going to work as well on the inside and outside edges of the cutouts. With spray paint all those edges will be the same color too. And, you can paint the ribs etc the same color. Try it on some scraps. The key is to dust it on, wait about a minute, and then dust some more on.

I doubt the highlighter will work very well. There's a reason people use Sharpies.

Gordon
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Old Mar 07, 2011, 04:27 PM
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You thin acrylic with Windex? That's a new one on me! Any unusual effects?

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Old Mar 07, 2011, 06:47 PM
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You thin acrylic with Windex? That's a new one on me! Any unusual effects?

Jay
Flows better and dries faster than using water.
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Old Mar 07, 2011, 07:32 PM
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I've had some water based acrylics bead up on styrene foam before. Does the Windex solve that issue?
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Old Mar 07, 2011, 08:24 PM
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I've had some water based acrylics bead up on styrene foam before. Does the Windex solve that issue?
It helps "wet out" (flow) on the foam better than water. First few coats are VERY light and give the finish coats something to grab. If it is beading, you are applying too heavy a coat.
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Old Mar 08, 2011, 02:02 PM
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I was usually brushing so it's hard to go light. I'll try some of the same paint with Windex.

Pete
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Old Mar 08, 2011, 02:10 PM
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I was usually brushing so it's hard to go light. I'll try some of the same paint with Windex.

Pete
Windex won't make a difference if you are brushing.
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Old Mar 08, 2011, 02:22 PM
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Tim and Gordon and anyone else with Aileron Vapors: What sort of manuevers do you do in what sort of indoor facility?

I've flown original Vapors and now the Night Vapor. Indoors in a full-court gym I tend to fly mostly in two dimensions, i.e. around in circles, figure-8s, etc., either flying on the wing or harriering. Inside loops can be done, but I do them rarely. Outside loops are really iffy. And flying inverted is amost impossible for me. I can often hover or very nearly hover with the battery allowed to hang down and swing backwards at high alpha. That's with the A/C shut off, of course!

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Old Mar 08, 2011, 03:33 PM
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I just fly around, use the ailerons to do banked turns, and the occasional loop. I've rolled it some, but don't do it all the time. My son flys it more than I do, and he does all of the above and occasionally flies inverted. Mostly it's for the fun of flying something like a Vapor, but that is controlled differently because of the ailerons. For example, you can do nice flat turns with it.

Gordon
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Old Mar 10, 2011, 11:03 AM
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Pardon my iggerence but what's windex ?

Terry
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Old Mar 10, 2011, 11:12 AM
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Pardon my iggerence but what's windex ?

Terry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windex

There you go.
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Old Mar 10, 2011, 11:31 AM
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Wow, just stumbled on this thread. What a great looking plane!
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Old Mar 10, 2011, 12:12 PM
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Given the recent changes to the formula cited in the Wiki you linked, I'll probably be switching to windshield washer fluid. It is probably more consistent and I'm told works just as well.
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