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Old Nov 14, 2010, 08:11 PM
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There's some video of the first time I flew it in this post in my Air Bender thread.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=66
No video since then as I've gotten better flying it. And, no video of it when I was flying it quite a bit at KIEF. Sorry there's no more recent video.

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Old Nov 15, 2010, 03:16 PM
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That looks awesome

Nice job

Do you mount the motor with ply? How did you secure to foam?




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There's some video of the first time I flew it in this post in my Air Bender thread.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...4&postcount=66
No video since then as I've gotten better flying it. And, no video of it when I was flying it quite a bit at KIEF. Sorry there's no more recent video.

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Old Nov 15, 2010, 08:16 PM
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The motor mount is just two pieces of 1/64th ply (in retrospect should have been 1/32) which have holes that the motor bearing tube is pressed into. Those light ply pieces then slide into slots cut in the foam fuselage and the motor is pushed through them and a hole in the foam I bored with a hand reamer. With only about 24g of thrust it doesn't have to be super robust. There's a close up pic of it in the second post in that thread.

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Old Nov 15, 2010, 08:39 PM
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now that adds an awesome touch to the boring vapor . makes me wanna get a vapor again.
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Old Nov 15, 2010, 10:29 PM
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thanks for info

if you dont mind I'll re-direct questions to your thread on this subject


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The motor mount is just two pieces of 1/64th ply (in retrospect should have been 1/32) which have holes that the motor bearing tube is pressed into. Those light ply pieces then slide into slots cut in the foam fuselage and the motor is pushed through them and a hole in the foam I bored with a hand reamer. With only about 24g of thrust it doesn't have to be super robust. There's a close up pic of it in the second post in that thread.

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Old Nov 20, 2010, 10:29 PM
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now that adds an awesome touch to the boring vapor . makes me wanna get a vapor again.
Boring? BORING?!?! It's just calm....
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Old Feb 05, 2011, 07:44 PM
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Thanks for the plan Gordon. I made mine from a green dot fuse with electronics so I didn't have all the fittings. Thread, CA, and ply worked in place of fittings. Built from 3mm depron and 1/4 mil mylar. I still need to add a rudder servo but it flew fine without it. Flies very nice and relaxing.
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Old Feb 05, 2011, 08:00 PM
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I've been meaning to try one of those myself.. Sure looks sleek! Makes me wonder how a Night Vapor would look, all lit up!

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Old Feb 07, 2011, 07:56 PM
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Thanks for the plan Gordon. I made mine from a green dot fuse with electronics so I didn't have all the fittings. Thread, CA, and ply worked in place of fittings. Built from 3mm depron and 1/4 mil mylar. I still need to add a rudder servo but it flew fine without it. Flies very nice and relaxing.
Hi Mike,

How does it roll? Can you do a decent roll or does the undercamber make it difficult? I'm thinking about building one for my wife an an aerobatics trainer since things happen slowly.

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Old Feb 07, 2011, 08:32 PM
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Hi Pete,
It doesn't do rolls. It's a nice aileron trainer but it's not an aerobat. Perhaps with a flat wing and bigger ailerons it might roll. I added the rudder servo but I don't think that's gonna help rolls.
It's a really easy and quick build, I might try a new wing at some point.
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Old Feb 07, 2011, 09:16 PM
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Mike,
Nice to see you built one and like it.

Pete,
it can do rolls, but they aren't pretty. The wing is up on a pylon, and then there is the under camber. And, when we fly ours we can see the tail twist out of alignment with the wing because the CF fuselage is not that rigid. Still, it flies nice and slow, and differently than a standard Vapor.

Ours has a big rip in one wing from a mishap a couple of months ago with another plane's prop. It's taped up and flies fine. But, doesn't look so great. I'll probably need to make another wing at some point after this indoor season is over.

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Old Mar 06, 2011, 08:10 AM
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Just curious how many of these have been built and flown around the world.

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Old Mar 06, 2011, 07:56 PM
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Just curious how many of these have been built and flown around the world.

Jim
Gordon's, Mike's, and mine makes 3 built that we know of. None of them have flown around world AFAIK.

Mine is covered with Saran Wrap and uses an Ember II fuse, so it is a tad heavier than Gordon's. The wing can be moved forward and aft as can the battery tray. It can be trimmed to fly slower then the Night Vapors at our local site.

I "forced" my son to fly it at our last session. The Vapor he usually flies was being re-covered and I suggested he give it a try. He just sat there with the plane in front of him, too "chicken" to take off. I distracted him and threw the throttle to about half-way. Off it went leaving him no choice but to fly it .
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Old Mar 06, 2011, 08:28 PM
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Looks good Tim! Maybe we'll see it fly at Toledo Bill
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Old Mar 06, 2011, 10:00 PM
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Looks good Tim! Maybe we'll see it fly at Toledo Bill
Probably.
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