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Old Mar 26, 2010, 08:39 PM
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wow that thing does fly nice ... but it's so much like the UM cub ... hmm
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 09:28 PM
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Since someone asked and as I recall, I made it back that same day around dusk after a 5 plus hr flight with four stops for fuel and food. Owned the Piet for almost 10 years. It was a Grega conversion with the Cont 65HP.

At every flyin they would put me with the war birds. Had a great time in warm weather. The tail was a little heavy and was hard for people to get in and out of the front hole. I do believe that the Cub is a little more fun and a better flying aircraft. Can anyone guess what purpose was behind the string with handle in the cockpit?
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Old Mar 26, 2010, 10:36 PM
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Actually a really good question. David, do you think there'll be a BNF version of this coming out?
Not even a remote chance. It's already an RTF at a BNF price, or think of it as a BNF with a free transmitter. If you don't want the transmitter, just toss it! Our strategy was to make it very affordable for the beginner, giving them an entryway to BNF ultra-micros using the small transmitter.

Since I know some are wondering, compared to the J-3, the Champ does have better low-speed handling qualities. It's a little more forgiving for the newbie pilot. It's also significantly larger.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 12:03 AM
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Perfectly reasonable, and good to know, thanks Dave.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 12:19 AM
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Not even a remote chance. It's already an RTF at a BNF price, or think of it as a BNF with a free transmitter. If you don't want the transmitter, just toss it! Our strategy was to make it very affordable for the beginner, giving them an entryway to BNF ultra-micros using the small transmitter.

Since I know some are wondering, compared to the J-3, the Champ does have better low-speed handling qualities. It's a little more forgiving for the newbie pilot. It's also significantly larger.
Is the receiver in the Champ DSM or DSM2?
Am I wrong in saying that if it is DSM it cannot be bound to say a DX6i??
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 01:00 AM
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same question as above. If it binds to my DX-7 then sign me up one of these little gems

also forgot to ask, any time frame on the release?
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 01:02 AM
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They are useing the same brick and TX as the vapor.
It can be bound to any spectrum TX...
DSM cannot
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 07:58 AM
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If they made a BNF of this, that would be great! I know this is for beginners and so they have to make a complete beginner package, but a BNF would make for a great deal...
Dont worry it is bnf.

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Champís radio system uses the same Spektrum 2.4GHz DSM2 technology that is trusted by experienced RC pilots all around the world.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 09:16 AM
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Hum! this mite be a new gear box and motor here?

Propeller Shaft: Champ
$2.99 [HBZ4904]

Gear box (no motor): Champ
$6.99 [HBZ4929]

Gear Box with Motor: Champ
$15.19 [HBZ4930]

But the prop is a 4sit



Prop and Spinner 130 x 70 (2): UM 4-Site/Champ

Check out the PDF manual here

http://www.horizonhobby.com/ProdInfo...900-Manual.pdf
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 09:49 AM
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would be nice to have a lil bigger motor in there
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 10:09 AM
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DSM2
They are useing the same brick and TX as the vapor.
It can be bound to any spectrum TX...
DSM cannot
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Dont worry it is bnf.

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Champís radio system uses the same Spektrum 2.4GHz DSM2 technology that is trusted by experienced RC pilots all around the world.
Thank you for answering my inquiry.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 10:12 AM
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The airframe is all new.
It is tuned and tested to fly well for beginners.
I would think of this as our special low price to get new pilots into the hobby. Beginner products sometimes involve sacrifice!


Have Fun,
David
Dave ... Can you tell us if it is a new motor and gear box !
Or is it a 4-site or p51 motor? just wondering.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 10:50 AM
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I think of this one as the UM CUB with modifications to fly better. The UM CUB had to small of a rudder. As you can tell this one is significantly larger. It also appears that they have made some structural modifications to the tail assembly.

They didn't want to "discontinue" the UM CUB so that is why they made this one. If you look, a good bit of the parts are the exact same from the UM CUB.
I have faith that this one will fly better for beginners. Nice Job HH!!!
I would assume that they have a different gearbox assembly because "it flies slower than the UM CUB"... Which yes it has a bigger wingspan. But knowing HH I am sure they would spend the time to design a new gearbox setup for the Champ.
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Old Mar 27, 2010, 12:55 PM
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Can anyone guess what purpose was behind the string with handle in the cockpit?
I know it isn't a yaw string for extreme conditions.

I think it would be nice to have something to get chocks out from under the wheels, but I can't imagine a neat, foolproof way of doing that without the risk of having the chocks not come loose or wind up dangling under the plane. I am absolutely certain it is not a "yankee starter," so I guess I have to wait for an answer from you.

BTW, as models go a Piet would make a nice UM as would a Gere Sport. Any scale Piet of mine would have to have a big radiator sticking up. I had a House of Balsa Piet once that would flat spin really nice. You needed a prop blast on the rudder to stop the rotation.

Pete,
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Old Mar 28, 2010, 08:51 AM
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Since I know some are wondering, compared to the J-3, the Champ does have better low-speed handling qualities. It's a little more forgiving for the newbie pilot. It's also significantly larger.
Dave can you tell us how the champ handles wind compared to the Cub?

After tiring to decide between the P51 and the Cub I had decided on the Cub but I think this maybe more fitting for my needs. I want a cheap transmitter to have on hand for when I did not want to pack up the DX6i. Heavier may allow windier conditions, and great price.
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