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Old May 17, 2010, 11:23 AM
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Took mine out this weekend and found it actually thermals well due to its low weight. I took it up high and fly about 1/2 throttle in cruise. When I noticed a thermal bump I'd just circle around, cut the throttle and up it went! Not the same as one of my sailplanes but it sure extends flight times!
Get an extra battery and have it on the charger while you fly. By the time I'm done with the first battery, the next one is about ready to go.
Great little plane.

Brian
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Old May 17, 2010, 11:41 AM
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With my P51 anything over 5 MPH is really pushing it. Can the champ handle more than 5 MPH?
Yes. It tends to ride over turbulence, its stability keeps it from being upset too badly by crosswinds (unlike the Mustang,) and it recovers quite well when it does get upset. The Champ slips and crabs really well for a plane with no ailerons (it's surprisingly easy to keep the wings level on rudder in turbulent air and crosswinds.)

I flew my Champ in winds between 5 to 10 MPH with gusts into the teens, and it windsurfed just fine. Required a steady hand and no small amount of nerve, though.
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Old May 17, 2010, 11:59 AM
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Sorry, Dave Eichstedt, I must disagree...

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Not even a remote chance. It's already an RTF at a BNF price, or think of it as a BNF with a free transmitter. If you don't want the transmitter, just toss it! Our strategy was to make it very affordable for the beginner, giving them an entryway to BNF ultra-micros using the small transmitter.

Since I know some are wondering, compared to the J-3, the Champ does have better low-speed handling qualities. It's a little more forgiving for the newbie pilot. It's also significantly larger.
...D. Eichstadts says "if you don't want the transmitter, just toss it!" I must disagree! That transmitter is a hobby grade instrument, granted a $30 hobby grade instrument, but it's a little gem. You can always sell your Tx to someone, or take it down to the pond and sell it to the boat guys. In fact, I've reconsidered my strategy and now I'm converting ALL my micro BNF's to RTF's, so I've been buying all the little transmitters in town. My new strategy is to keep the micros in my truck for the ultimate in spontaneous flying, so each micro is totally self-contained. Plus, in my case I'd rather turn over the little Tx to my kids than my DX-7 because it's only a matter of time before they drop it or spill ice cream on it. Anyway, as the first kid in town with the HZ Champ, it's a real winner, but don't throw quality away, at the very least you can give the toy transmitter to a kid. No offense, Dave, but the whole package is too good a value to throw anything away. My compliments on another winner!
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Old May 17, 2010, 12:36 PM
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Sounds like a great little plane. I hear it's also a bit bigger and more powerful than the J3?




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Yes. It tends to ride over turbulence, its stability keeps it from being upset too badly by crosswinds (unlike the Mustang,) and it recovers quite well when it does get upset. The Champ slips and crabs really well for a plane with no ailerons (it's surprisingly easy to keep the wings level on rudder in turbulent air and crosswinds.)

I flew my Champ in winds between 5 to 10 MPH with gusts into the teens, and it windsurfed just fine. Required a steady hand and no small amount of nerve, though.
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Old May 17, 2010, 01:00 PM
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You are correct, this is down to using a similar motor to the P-51
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Old May 17, 2010, 01:04 PM
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Awesome - I may have to get one of these . I lov my mustang but you need a lot of room to fly and low winds.
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Old May 17, 2010, 02:35 PM
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It has a lot of extra lift for a plane this size. Mine tends to porpuse if the throttle is too high. Needs some weight on the nose. Managed to get a couple of hours of air time this weekend. What a great plane. I was out in 5 mph winds with 10 mph gusts and it took it like a Champ. The plane glides very well. I could fly it out until it was hard to see and glide it all the way back. You can slow it down to a jogging pace and still have reasonable control. Better plane than my Playmate or Ember.

Brian
Mine does the opposite. Under throttle it is very smooth but when you cut the throttle is starts to porpuse. I just keep a small ammount of power on when I am coming in to land and it does just fine.
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Old May 17, 2010, 04:30 PM
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I saw this fly first hand yesterday. Sweet little flyer. Handled some wind. Responsive. looks nice. Way more power than I had originally thought. Thumbs up. And thumbs up to my brother in law who bought this for his first plane/first flight. He did good.
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Old May 17, 2010, 05:30 PM
What package dear?
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If any newbie is interested and on the fence, I have posted a review on the horizon web site.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...900#reviewsTab
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Old May 17, 2010, 05:35 PM
What package dear?
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...D. Eichstadts says "if you don't want the transmitter, just toss it!" I must disagree! That transmitter is a hobby grade instrument, granted a $30 hobby grade instrument, but it's a little gem. You can always sell your Tx to someone, or take it down to the pond and sell it to the boat guys. In fact, I've reconsidered my strategy and now I'm converting ALL my micro BNF's to RTF's, so I've been buying all the little transmitters in town. My new strategy is to keep the micros in my truck for the ultimate in spontaneous flying, so each micro is totally self-contained. Plus, in my case I'd rather turn over the little Tx to my kids than my DX-7 because it's only a matter of time before they drop it or spill ice cream on it. Anyway, as the first kid in town with the HZ Champ, it's a real winner, but don't throw quality away, at the very least you can give the toy transmitter to a kid. No offense, Dave, but the whole package is too good a value to throw anything away. My compliments on another winner!
I hear what you are saying I would feel better handing the TX to a kid while the bird is in the air than to let a kid handle the Airplane. In fact I am thinking about going out to fly now as soon as batteries charge and it is misting out I would never do that or consider that with my DX6i.
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Old May 17, 2010, 05:37 PM
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I think ill have to get this bird because there are days when winds are 5 mph or more and I dont try and fly UM P51 mustang cause it doesnt handle it well, but sounds like this baby does
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Old May 17, 2010, 05:56 PM
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I think ill have to get this bird because there are days when winds are 5 mph or more and I dont try and fly UM P51 mustang cause it doesnt handle it well, but sounds like this baby does

It bobs up and down about 2 feet in higher winds but I didn't have trouble with crosswinds. Just don't fly it too close to the ground in higher winds.

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Old May 17, 2010, 06:05 PM
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Sweet as long as it handles more wind than my mustang it's all good. I am fairly new to planes. I have the vapor and p51 micros and was thinking or cub but this looks better. I have a dx6i so wish it came in BNF but 89 is a good pride for RTF
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Old May 17, 2010, 06:27 PM
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Sweet as long as it handles more wind than my mustang it's all good. I am fairly new to planes. I have the vapor and p51 micros and was thinking or cub but this looks better. I have a dx6i so wish it came in BNF but 89 is a good pride for RTF
I thought about a super cub but after crashing mine fatally the first day I have been leary about buying another. I have an ember and playmate and the Champ handles much better than either with or without wind. The Champ is an infinitly better deal than the ember even though it doesn't come BNF. It bound to my dx6i just fine and the Champ transmitter can be bound to other BNF planes so it should fetch $20 or $30 on ebay.

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Old May 17, 2010, 06:42 PM
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I agree; now I want this plane bad but will have to wait a bit



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I thought about a super cub but after crashing mine fatally the first day I have been leary about buying another. I have an ember and playmate and the Champ handles much better than either with or without wind. The Champ is an infinitly better deal than the ember even though it doesn't come BNF. It bound to my dx6i just fine and the Champ transmitter can be bound to other BNF planes so it should fetch $20 or $30 on ebay.

Brian
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