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Old Mar 20, 2010, 05:16 AM
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Obama, a campaign fool spending others money to acheive his agenda.

How much did you contribute to this moron without consent?
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 05:17 AM
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It's about time to remove this tumor ya think?
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 05:19 AM
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What tumor?
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 05:29 AM
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I think he's talking about Bankers - 'coz he said about spending other peoples money (and loosing it) without their consent...
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 11:32 AM
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What tumor?
The fast growing stage IV cash eating debt creating cancer with an insatiable appetite that took over the Whitehouse.
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 12:11 PM
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Just on fox(from the white house)Added to the health care bill,24% increase on capital gain taxes...RTR
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 01:14 PM
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Sadly it really is just politics as usual. Only difference it that the drapes are pulled back a bit now.
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 01:16 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 01:16 PM
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I think he's talking about Bankers - 'coz he said about spending other peoples money (and loosing it) without their consent...
Thats interesting. When you put you money in a bank, what do you think they're going to do with it?
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 11:37 PM
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Sadly it really is just politics as usual. Only difference it that the drapes are pulled back a bit now.
I like the bldgs. in the background. One says Corp INC, one looks to almost say Google, and I cannot read the first word in the one on the right.

That is a Bush era cartoon, I gare on tee.

Great drawing though.
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Old Mar 20, 2010, 11:40 PM
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Thats interesting. When you put you money in a bank, what do you think they're going to do with it?
Leverage it 18 or 20 times on some investments. Well, depends on the bank...
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Old Mar 21, 2010, 01:59 PM
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..a Bush era cartoon...on tee.

Great drawing though.
Yes. I had not seen it before but like it too.

The Dems yell about the bad GOP and vice versa, but the real common problem is the corrupting influence of big money in politics. The cartoon hits that nail on the head.

Re: the theme of the OP - I remain mystified by those who blame Obama and the Democrats for the deficit. The major components of the deficit:

1. Iraq war
2. Afghanistan war
3. Bush tax cuts
4. Worst recession in nearly 80 years
5. Stimulus spending re: #4

When Obama and the Democrats are clearly to not to blame for 3 out of 5, and arguably not to blame for 4 out of 5 (I would hope we could at least agree responsibility for #4 is shared between the parties), it defies all logic to solely blame Obama/Democrats for deficits.

It's so ironic. If Obama and the Democrats had not done #5, then I would be yelling at him along with the Conservatives - although for different reasons.
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Old Mar 21, 2010, 07:11 PM
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The influence has to go or at least be hobbled before we can get any real governing for and by people done.
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Old Mar 21, 2010, 07:13 PM
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The influence that has always existed?

Logically the ramification of your assertion is that no "real governing for and by people" has ever been done.

The wealthy and powerful have always had the greatest influence over government.
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Old Mar 21, 2010, 07:37 PM
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The wealthy and powerful have always had the greatest influence over government.
Absolutely true.

However before the advent of mass electronic media, they were not able to deliver expensive unsolicited messages into the homes of voters hundreds of times during an election cycle. And until the introduction of the particularly ruthless practices deployed by Lee Atwater, the message was not as effective in playing to the baser emotions of voters.

IMO the combination of money, electronic media, and sophisticated marketing techniques are a new threat to the ideal of democracy. There is a real threat that the ideal of "government by the people" is being transformed into "government by the most wealthy and ruthless people".
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