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Old Jun 06, 2012, 05:11 PM
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How about Jun 29,30 - Jul 1?
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 05:40 PM
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I'll have to get ground clearance from the tower but I might be able to make Saturday work.

BTW, I salted away site #18 just to be on the safe side
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 05:48 PM
Huckfest or bust!
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the inside of my new tent.
Some of you might have to make a little room for me
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 05:57 PM
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Are there less electrons at altitude?
YES!

Seriously tho, Last year at the Wenatchee Huckfest I repeatedly hit LVC a good minute or more before my timer would go off versus at our home altitude my timer leaves 25% remaining.

I also noticed it taking more throttle to hover and having less overall punch so this year I'm considering propping up on my e-powered planes and/or reducing my flight timer.

I'm interested in the gangs suggestions/opinions.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 06:00 PM
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the inside of my new tent.
Some of you might have to make a little room for me
How much to stay at the Havoc Motel?
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 06:30 PM
This ain't my first rodeo...
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Agreed. This is how I felt last year when I competed in some Imac contests.
Adding the judging portion causes thumbs to shake.

And I did notice a big difference in the output of the DA-170 in Wenatchee versus lower altitudes. I had to adjust the high needle to get rpms back
I could have used your advice in my corner last year at the huck. Not having that much experience at gas let alone altitude, I managed to earn this bad boy...

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Are there less electrons at altitude?
I think it has to do with thinner air requiring more throttle to do the same things we take advantage of down here. Seems wacky but it's legit!

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How about Jun 29,30 - Jul 1?
I'm in!!! Not sure how many people can be a guest for each actual member, but if necessary I'd join up.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 06:33 PM
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I could have used your advice in my corner last year at the huck. Not having that much experience at gas let alone altitude, I managed to earn this bad boy...

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sorry buddy...I wanted to be there!!, but the first anniversary sorta got in the way
Wenatche was my 3d contest last year..or was it the second..either way, I fell in love with that field and the amenities.
The people were all great too. Deanna and I had a blast that weekend.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 06:35 PM
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Think I remember reading that. BTW that tent is no joke! You've flown out there so you know the valley winds can get pretty gnarly. I think Vitter and Azhar had a dome tent last year, may want to pick their brains on how they'd do it this year.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 07:12 PM
Gonna need a bigger plane . .
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Ha ha that tent is great, that's bigger than Franks and Hawkeye's in the 4077.

I didn't really notice the 1000ft altitude, but I recall Altuz, TyeeFlyer and Supatim had overheated engines.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 07:13 PM
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Big Bird Luncheon at the NCC!

Looking at the forecast I knew today might be the last day to get out and fly for a while so Cpt. Tom and I rallied up at the NCC with the 100cc big birds today! Wind was a steady 5-10 straight down the runway so we just played around with stationary rolling harriers and spot landings! Just a few ground shots, but you get the idea!

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Old Jun 06, 2012, 08:04 PM
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the inside of my new tent.
Some of you might have to make a little room for me
That cool I like the wood stove in it. Condo size. You guys should buy one and set it up and pay for 1 tent site . Split it up like $2 Ea for two days -smile-
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 10:31 PM
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That might take a couple camp sites Steve

@Vitter - Maybe some of the guys that fly the Wanatchee field regularly would have some insight on that. A lower pitch unloads the motor some but I don't know if that's the correct way to compensate for altitude change.

@Cry, Flop - I had to dig deep in the memory archieves to pull the 4077 reference (Hawkeye was the man!). I'll bet setting that up is fun.

@Supatim - I have a membership, that's got to account for 2 or 3 guests, if it's not crowded I doubt it would matter, they seem pretty easy going up there. Steve also has a membership, so I think we're golden.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 11:02 PM
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@Supatim - I have a membership, that's got to account for 2 or 3 guests, if it's not crowded I doubt it would matter, they seem pretty easy going up there. Steve also has a membership, so I think we're golden.[/QUOTE]

In my creepy Mr. Burns voice "Excellent..."
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 11:27 PM
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YES!

Seriously tho, Last year at the Wenatchee Huckfest I repeatedly hit LVC a good minute or more before my timer would go off versus at our home altitude my timer leaves 25% remaining.

I also noticed it taking more throttle to hover and having less overall punch so this year I'm considering propping up on my e-powered planes and/or reducing my flight timer.

I'm interested in the gangs suggestions/opinions.
After thinking about, when you're in a hover your displacing air to stay up. Like a boat, you stay afloat by displacing the weight of your ship. If the air you're displacing weighs less per cubic foot (the effect of being at a higher altitude) you have to increase your rpm to displace the same weight in air. I would try a larger prop or increase the pitch to move more air per rev, however from an engineering perspective I think it just takes more "work" (energy) to stay afloat in thinner air. We'll probably have to just reset our timers. I did email a question to Mike to see they have more insight.
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Old Jun 06, 2012, 11:36 PM
Gonna need a bigger plane . .
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I know the guys that fly in Denver have to prop up, so say instead of 12x6 use a 13x6.5. I remember flying my KMD in Salmon, ID and the elevation was 4500 ft. Barely enough power to stay in hover on a prop that had plenty at sea level. Wenatchee being 1000 ft doesn't seem like enough to switch props though.
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