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Old Nov 29, 2011, 09:33 PM
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I believe all you do is flip the motor/housing up side down so it's pointed downward. I don't have this particular mod but, I'm sure that's all you do.

Mike.

Here's the page I just found:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...8#post18652733
Oh, then my bad! I thought you installed a motor from the PiccoZ and hence got the speed. But then all you do is change the angle of attack of the tail rotor prop. Maybe i should try to change the AoA of my stock tail rotor a couple of degrees :roll eyes:
Or ill just order a set from Klippie and flip the motor mount around...
Any decrease in flight time after doing this? Guessing the motor must work harder to cope with a higher pitch prop.
Thanks!
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 09:39 PM
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No decrease in flight time that I have noticed P.
What I did (very simple) in addition to what I mentioned in my previous post:
Take the canopy off...center that battery laterally in the mount and at the same time move it forward a bit for more forward bias. Reinstall canopy. Disconnect the l.e.d. (less power drain).
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 09:41 PM
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Oh, then my bad! I thought you installed a motor from the PiccoZ and hence got the speed. But then all you do is change the angle of attack of the tail rotor prop. Maybe i should try to change the AoA of my stock tail rotor a couple of degrees :roll eyes:
Or ill just order a set from Klippie and flip the motor mount around...
Any decrease in flight time after doing this? Guessing the motor must work harder to cope with a higher pitch prop.
Thanks!
Just keep your flight time to 5 minutes. Rest 10 minutes before and after a charge

Mike.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 10:00 PM
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Has any weigh the Picooz tail rotor? I am curious. Thanks.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 10:11 PM
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Just PM'ed Mr. Klippie for 6 Picooz tail rotors.

Thanks for all that donated their hard work, time & thoughts here on this thread.

Hey guyz, I have to tell ya...I've been into RC for 30+ years, started many too (which fills the heart) but as of late my mother says that finally my step Dad (of 30+ years) wants one of those "little remote helicoptors" that he can fly around the house with. After days of reviewing posts, it all came down to the Syma 107G. So I purchased 2 from X-Heli. "CHA" stamped underneath the charging port I see, and the xmitter both CH-A & CH-B. Both are the exact same color & channel too? There was no way to contact the seller via Amazon ($22 ea w/ free 2 day shipping for prime members) So this is the question; are there both channel A & B? Could one fly both at the same time, no I could'nt try that. They have the red PCB, are real, and mind you the 1st flight was rock stable.

So with all the mods I did on my old non gyro metal mini coptors (and I'm a modder) I thought that I might as well attempt to play around with installing one of these PCBs in the non-gyro bird. It's about 11 inches long, but flies great, just does the spin on a dime thing. With a carbon boom even. I have 2 of them. Love to upgrade the brains, however I realize that the electronics (FETs) will be burdend with the extra load. I guess an alternate question would be: What other PCB/bird's PCB could be had that may handle the larger motors? I apoligese for the off topic question.

OK, so wifey just sat down at the laptop w/ the earphones in, time to do my 2nd flight.............))))))))))

Best, Doug
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 11:06 PM
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Has any weigh the Picooz tail rotor? I am curious. Thanks.
It is not a weight factor. It is the same or less than the oem rotor.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 11:29 PM
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"CHA" stamped underneath the charging port I see, and the xmitter both CH-A & CH-B. Both are the exact same color & channel too? There was no way to contact the seller via Amazon ($22 ea w/ free 2 day shipping for prime members) So this is the question; are there both channel A & B? Could one fly both at the same time, no I could'nt try that. They have the red PCB, are real, and mind you the 1st flight was rock stable.
The "CHA" is Chinese shorthand for "Charge". You can fly both at the same time, you just have to turn them on one at a time. If I remember correctly the steps are:
Turn on heli A.
Turn on transmitter A.
Move throttle to bind with the heli.
Turn off transmitter A. LEAVE HELI A ON.

Turn on heli B.
Turn on transmitter B.
Move throttle to bind with heli.

Turn on transmitter A.

Have fun knocking each other out of the sky.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 11:57 PM
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The price didn't last long!
I shoulda taken them up on that...
A missed opportunity! Now at $28.48.
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Old Nov 30, 2011, 03:11 AM
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i got two off ebay for $2 each on cyber monday
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Old Nov 30, 2011, 07:45 AM
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Hi, Jake, I just watched your video. I spent most of the time watching the DOG! LOL

Although it's hard to tell from just that video angle, me thinks that my S107 could match that speed. But now that you mentioned it, I went back and check your photos on the ALDA and you are not kidding! The tail rotor has reversed pitch. No wonder your piccoz is a drop in. Where do you buy piccoz cheap?
I had a bunch of old havoc heli parts...need some?
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Old Nov 30, 2011, 07:47 AM
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Flip the tail motor...take off the fins.
Looks weird at first but now when I see a normal 107 it looks weird to me.
I am soooo acustomed to the motor pointing down...and no it doesn't put it in harms way (in my case anyway)...just don't crash
Jim
Don't have to do that with the ALDIs clones...the motor spins oposite and uses a different tail rotor. Piccoz fit right on and really make this thing move.
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Unfortunately...Aldi copters are all gone.
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Old Nov 30, 2011, 11:16 AM
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So this is the question; are there both channel A & B? Could one fly both at the same time, no I could'nt try that. They have the red PCB, are real, and mind you the 1st flight was rock stable.
Best, Doug
Yep. Put one on A, one on B. Go to different rooms, or point remotes opposite each other, basically you don't want the remotes and heli's to "see" each other during start up. Turn on remotes then heli's and you should be good to go. Works for me.
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Old Nov 30, 2011, 12:41 PM
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Big_Kid got the right idea. But going into different room is not necessary. S107 searches for channel signature at power up. As long as you don't turn on two S107s at once, and while they were both waiting an initial command, and you throw throttle on your Tx - then they will bind to the same channel. Do one pair at a time: Heli/Tx/Heli/Tx, like TSquare suggested, and you're okay. In other words, if you do Heli/Heli/.../Heli/Tx, then all the helis (as many as you want) would be on the same channel!
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Old Nov 30, 2011, 06:41 PM
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Battery Mod show and tell

Here's one way to mod the Syma battery to use the E-Flite/Parkzone style battery.

  • Take the charging circuit from the stock Syma s107s.
  • Solder on a mini/pico/parkzone adapter You can glue down to secure the connector even more. I used medium CA.
  • Solder on a couple of legs from LED to reach the positive and negative terminal. Creative bending and extra solder at right angle corners help add strength.

I put a piece of foam in the battery tray to have a flat surface, from which you can use fiberglass carpet tape as I have. Or velcro as you see fit. The battery actually get's secured up against the plug because the canopy pushes up on it from the rear. You can get creative here if you'd like.


I hope this inspires your own ideas. Definitely share if you have any. I already have a second version that let's you slide the battery in at a diagonal with the board and plug towards the nose of the heli. This requires cutting a slot in your battery tray to securely hold the battery charging circuit board at the right angle. Some people might prefer that orientation better. When I get a chance, I'll mod my second heli this way as proof of concept.



With the battery interface neatly stowed behind the canopy where it belongs, how does one easily get inside?

Stay tune... See this post here:
http://www.hacksmods.com/2011/12/sim...le-canopy-mod/
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