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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:00 AM
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I think it's mostly about providing a toned down CP out of the box.

I too expected a larger FP..something to compete with the U-Fly and HBFP. I suspect the SR is expected to provide the same level of training as my HBFP..even if it was collective pitch I wouldn't be using that yet.

Hovering, sliding around, some FF

How many of us who trained on a Fixed Pitch actually waited until we could out fly IT before getting another bird? Not many I can assure you.

I'm not sure the SR will make sense for me since I have a Belt CP, King II, and HK450 on my shelf - but for a lot of people it will.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:02 AM
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Makes sense.. weight issues and also another motor to break?
A belt-driven tail provides more granular response that matches the main rotor pitch changes better and is far more tunable.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:04 AM
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CP Pro 2 is still a current product. One day, it could be replaced by a hotter tuned up SR, but it is still there on the E-flite and Horizon Hobby pages.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:07 AM
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If you check, the Blade CP Pro 2 isn't listed any more.
It is still listed on the site:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLH1350

As well as the CP +

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLH1105


I guess we will have to wait for an official answer from Dave.


With the price of the SR and it having a BL motor makes the CP Pro 2 relatively overpriced.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:12 AM
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Hmmm..would be nice if this drove down the price of the mSR.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:24 AM
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Hmmm..would be nice if this drove down the price of the mSR.
Well I think that won't happen as they are not competing directly with each other. I mean two different size category.


What I would love is a new substitute for the Blade 400. Something with the SR looks.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:28 AM
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so other than the toned down controls, what are the main differences between the CP and SR?
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 11:33 AM
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This heli would be nice with that new Huey fuselage. I'd consider that configuration if they made some kind of package deal.
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 01:17 PM
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Darn - not big enough to carry a small HD cam (4-5oz.)

Looks nice ... almost like the HBV3 or similar (head and frame).

Why the tail motor instead of belts/shafts?

Regardless, I'm interested for now. Need to see some flight videos ...



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Old Jan 07, 2010, 01:32 PM
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Compare the frame design to the latest Honey Bee CP3. There are only minor differences in how the battery mounts. On the head, in reality, only the implementation of the Bell-Hiller system is different. The radio TX's share the same overall design for the CX and CP series. I am sure that the parts are sub-contracted out to a few different manufacturers, but the majority of the CP series parts come from a common manufacturer. E-sky.

Don

PS. If there is any doubt, the box states where the heli is manufactured and assembled.
Hi,
Certainly not interested in an argument here, but for the record, this is absolutely not the case. Our factory (OEM) is not the same (at all) as the mentioned company/product. The SR is somewhat of a fusion of the Blade CP and Blade 400 concepts in form. The frames are a bit like a 'mini 400'.
Clearly there are a lot of similar products in the market.... certainly features are 'borrowed' one way or the other (yes, sometimes in the past even early prototypes, photos, or drawings have been leaked and rushed to market).
If they were made in the same place, I would just say nothing.... (sometimes products are) but they are not.... for the record.

David
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 01:36 PM
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so other than the toned down controls, what are the main differences between the CP and SR?
Different frame concept and landing gear, stronger main shaft, brushless main motor.
Different rotor head tuning... including higher aspect main rotor blades. New 2 in 1 controller. Different programming of controls as mentioned.
It is really a lot more different then existing. The motor/prop is pretty much the same, and the head is very similar, but different shaft and tuning... everything else is pretty much new.

David
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 01:42 PM
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I like it, but.............at 21in. it's not a "Micro" as the thread title indicates.

Yes indeed it looks like the mSR's Daddy! (Uhh, or Mommy whichever your preference, LOL)
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 01:55 PM
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I like it, but.............at 21in. it's not a "Micro" as the thread title indicates.

Yes indeed it looks like the mSR's Daddy! (Uhh, or Mommy whichever your preference, LOL)
We would certainly dissagree with this.
At 12 oz, it fits squarely in the 'micro' class which has been established for MANY years (before any dreamed of a 1 oz heli). This class includes the Blade CP, Blade CX/2/3, and products from many other makers. I would say 'micro is roughly 8-15 oz helis. YMMV.
Larger 450 class is also known as 'mini'
Product in the roughtly 1/2-3 oz class are know as 'ultra-micro' or nano.
Arguably, 4-8 oz product would be 'sub-micro'.

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Old Jan 07, 2010, 02:32 PM
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I wonder why the didnt go for a belt driven tail?
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Old Jan 07, 2010, 02:45 PM
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Oh ok then David, in that light yer right.

Hehe, I geuss in my eyes the term "Micro" means something different.

Still it's a darn cool heli, and I may have to just add it to my fleet since I've finally bit the rotorhead bullet with the mSR.
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