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Old Jan 06, 2010, 08:26 AM
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Recommendations for Nose Gear Strut for SpringAir 602 on 90mm BAE Hawk

Recommendations for nose gear strut for SpringAir 602 on 90mm BAE Hawk

I am looking for a suitable nose gear strut with suspension for my Fly Fly BAE Hawk. I have fitted a set of Springair 602’s and have drilled these out for 5/32” wire legs. I am happy to use wire legs for the main gear (these will be covered with wheel doors) but I really can’t stand the look of a “wiry” nose gear leg. My AUW is just under 8 lbs.

Any recommendations?

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Old Jan 10, 2010, 11:41 AM
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Re: nose gear strut

Check out this site. I just ordered one of the nose struts for an 8 lb 90 mm edf.
http://www.goldenskiesrc.com/Products_Landing_gear.html
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 07:56 PM
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I am using Tam's struts on my 1/7th Fox (black) Hawk......work great and the prices are very good. Give Tam a call or e-mail him. I am using Spring-aire 103 because of the clearence is good for the struts .

The Golden Skies are good struts too.
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 09:42 PM
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Struts

I make struts for the Hawk

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Old Jan 11, 2010, 10:57 AM
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The real problem with the 602's is that the landing gear wire pretty much retracts flush against the air cylinder.

The lack of any offest means that there is no room for any type of strut between the air cylinder and the pivot point unless its the same diameter as the wire leg.
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Old Jan 11, 2010, 04:29 PM
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Ken:
The real problem with the 602's is that the landing gear wire pretty much retracts flush against the air cylinder.



The 103s have the offset which is needed for main struts....the nose gear is bulkhead mounted and are o.k. Those are nice looking gear Larry....too bad I already have my gear as those would have looked good on my Fox Black Hawk.

By the way....does anyone know of a "tub" type cockpit which would fit my Hawk(1/7th scale)? I don't want to install a full depth cockpit for my pilots but would rather have something like this:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160985
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Old Jan 25, 2010, 02:31 PM
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Thanks for your replies gents, I actually missed them initially and settled for some Robarts - part #656 which I ordered through my LHS:

http://www.robart.com/RoboStruts/380_Series.aspx

They are beautiful, but I was shocked at the price of £54, which is around USD 90 at today's rates. Clearly we get ripped off on American products this side of the pond!

There are some good looking struts in this thread - Larry - your work is great. What would a set of those trike struts cost? Can they be used with other retracts?

As for clearance from the air cylinder on my Springair 602's, I have checked and all is fine. I still have to cut the strut to the desired length and tap a thread in the bushings; need to find an imperial tap 'n die set first...

Lastly, does anyone have an opinion on whether my 602's will hold up to my 8Lbs Hawk (I fly off grass)?. I have drilled them out for 5/32" wire. What is the next size up in retracts that can handle up to, say, 12Lbs?
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Old Jan 25, 2010, 02:56 PM
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602's will hold up on pavement just fine at 8 pounds and I have many many landings on 602's, but I have no direct experience using them on grass.

BTW, Robart has gotten fairly expensive for us on the same side of the pond as Robart But the rest of it is probably import fees and taxes for you guys.
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Old Jan 25, 2010, 03:36 PM
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Jacques:
Clearly we get ripped off on American products this side of the pond!

Expensive is buying anything which cost Euros on this side of the pond.....I am trying to buy American as much as I can....one reason I buy from Tam. Tam only talks foreign but he is all American as for business....(and a good guy to boot).
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Please post any strut mod pictures you do that work for the 602's
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Old Jan 25, 2010, 06:55 PM
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Please post any strut mod pictures you do that work for the 602's
Ken,

I am installing 602 springairs in a Fly Fly F-100. I cut down FF mains to clear the cylinder . But springair made me a special nose retract for the nose gear to clear using all of the FF nose gear. He also drilled them to 5/32. He thought he may make sets for the Fly Fly planes. Give them a call. Great service..

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Old Jan 25, 2010, 07:52 PM
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Did he just machine a different trunion for the 602 nose gear? I have a Spring Air 602 Nose Gear that I'd like to swap out for something like this so I can use a Tam trailing link Nosegear with it. Currently I have a titanium wire gear with a trailing link nose gear attachment but it is wearing out. I need a new nose gear leg.
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Old Jan 25, 2010, 08:21 PM
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I've got a set of 602's on my FlyFly Macchi. The nose gear is the FlyFly oleo and it fits and works fine unmodded. The mains need to use the wire as there is a problem with the oleos there.

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Old Jan 25, 2010, 10:26 PM
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Did he just machine a different trunion for the 602 nose gear? I have a Spring Air 602 Nose Gear that I'd like to swap out for something like this so I can use a Tam trailing link Nosegear with it. Currently I have a titanium wire gear with a trailing link nose gear attachment but it is wearing out. I need a new nose gear leg.
Yes the trunion is different from the mains. Also the rear screw is not use across the frame.

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