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Old Feb 20, 2010, 05:01 PM
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The Kyosho website is saying late Feb for the Spitfire and April for the Bf109E...if I'm "reading" it right.



Dear E-Flite,
I'm still patiently awaiting your announcement of offering the Bf-109E and Spit under your name as well as ARF packaging so I can add my own ESC and servos.

Sincerely...with credit card ready,
signed...25" span warbird Fan-boy
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Old Feb 20, 2010, 08:26 PM
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If by chance E-Flite doesn't offer these models, where can I get one from Kyosho. I had hoped for Airland Hobbies, but....
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 10:21 AM
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http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/airplan...part_num=10951

http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/airplan...part_num=10951

here are links to the american website.
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 12:11 PM
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The website of kyosho.DE (distributing to BELGIUM (Flemish) / NETHERLANDS / HUNGARY / GERMANY / AUSTRIA / CZECH / SLOVAKIA / DENMARK /ITALY / POLAND)

states the Spit will be available from calendar week 13 where as the Schmitt from week 17 for 199 (VAT incl).

No matter how good the Schmitt looks, I'll go with the E-Flite Warhawk kit (around 80 incl. motor) if Kyosho cannot get its act together and provide a PnP or kit version.
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 02:09 PM
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Tim you listed the link for the Spitfire twice lol.
Heres the ME-109 link for the Kyosho American site:
http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/airplan...part_num=10952

Ill have to figure out how to make the ailerons work!!
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 04:02 PM
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ROFL! That must be a subconscious doing. Thanks.
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 04:53 PM
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Kahloq, I see your (aileron) point as the American site says servos for elevator and rudder without mention of aileron but 3 servos included so a bit misleading.

The Japanese site says its 4 ch with 3 servos including the aileron, so looks like 4 channel without having to mod it!

Tim, was that two SPITS? (To be sure to be sure.)
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 05:08 PM
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Kahloq, I see your (aileron) point as the American site says servos for elevator and rudder without mention of aileron but 3 servos included so a bit misleading.

The Japanese site says its 4 ch with 3 servos including the aileron, so looks like 4 channel without having to mod it!
I really hope so, I do not think a scale warbird could fly at all without ailerons.
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 06:47 PM
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The pic shows aileron similar to the P-40 design. These new planes (109 & Spit) has rudder control as an improvement compared to the P-40. I mainly do bank & yank on these planes so can do w/o the rudder and its added weight. My only use for rudder would be a coordinated turn on a windy day but then this size plane doesn't do well in wind anyway so again, not necessary.

I will have to look for a way to lock down the rudder w/o using its push rods, etc...
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Old Feb 21, 2010, 09:46 PM
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Just found these two links to a Japanese site and translated using Google Translate for 109 and Spitfire.

http://translate.google.com/translat...tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

http://translate.google.com/translat...tbb=1&ie=UTF-8

If anything the translation gave me a laugh.

Also "I do not mind the prank equipped with ladder." (putting a rudder on the P40.)

http://translate.google.com/translat...tbb=1&ie=UTF-8
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 10:26 AM
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I will have to look for a way to lock down the rudder w/o using its push rods, etc...
Looked at the weight 230g (about 8oz) wingspan ~650mm (25") I think
I will fly with rudder. My Gloster Gladiator with 700mm (28") wingspan
has about same weight (after many repairs) is flying very well with
rudder. (Without it would be a pain).

So try it with rudder before You are trying to save weight. I would
rather take a look at the LiPo and brushless to see if it's possible
to get away with something lighter.

Interesting to see that Kyosho has seen the oportunity to make a
new class of warbirds in this size. The hardware has been around
for a while. I'm excited!
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 02:01 PM
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I am so excited to get the messerscmitt 109 !!! I looked at the piper J3 on the internet, already available ? most of them get a "preorder" status.
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Old Feb 22, 2010, 02:42 PM
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So try it with rudder before You are trying to save weight. I would
rather take a look at the LiPo and brushless to see if it's possible
to get away with something lighter.

Interesting to see that Kyosho has seen the oportunity to make a
new class of warbirds in this size. The hardware has been around
for a while. I'm excited!
The P-40 right now flies fine w/o rudder. I'm liking the fact that it weights in under 200 grams which translates to more flight time. My only warbird with rudder is PZ Bf109 and I don't even touch the rudder stick 99.99% of the time. I'm a heli flier too so rudder usage is not foreign to me. I just think it is unnecessary. Now if you're into aerobatics then knife-edge and hammer heads will require rudder so I can understand some who want that...just like those who have moded the P-40 to have rudder. Loops and rolls are about the only aerobatics I do so again, no need for me. But...whatever floats your boat.

I'm thinking 3 tooth picks or so between the vertical stabilizer and rudder should be enough to keep it straight.
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Old Feb 23, 2010, 01:22 AM
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I totally agree with that, the rudder is not not a necessity on this kind of plane , at a time I was flying the micro edge Kyosho.A great flyer even with 10mph wind . Roll loop inverted and no rudder at all.
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Old Mar 01, 2010, 08:55 PM
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Was at Super RC in Akihabara Tokyo on Sunday, They had the Spitfire in both the pnp Y12000 and readyset Y17000, both prices about Y5000 less than the Kyosho site price (hopefully that will be similar to the US price for you all. Only able to look at the airframe in the box but same quality finish as the P40.

They said the Me109 was about a month or so away from the Japan shops. Dont think that the Cub is a seller in this line as they did the Minium Cub and the warbirds are just more likeable.
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