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Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Photoniq
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Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

Hi -

I am about to enter the world of radio control flying. I will start with
planes (because that is what I can afford) and will move on to Heli's later.
Because of this I was hoping you could advise me as to what transmitter I
should buy. It needs to be one that is not so complicated that I will go
nuts trying to work out how to use it.

Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps better
off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
another transmitter in the future for the Heli?

If so which trasmitter would you recommend for my plane? Remember - I am a
complete newbie!

Cheers,
phoTToniq.



Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Mike
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

>
>Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps better
>off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
>another transmitter in the future for the Heli?


Noooo...most trannies will do both these days. In any case, you want to aim to
buy a tranny that will be suitable for a helicopter, as this is the more fussy
of the two requirements, then you can 'dumb it down' to fly a plane.

I have no idea whats available in your area, or what you want to pay, so I'll
decline to recommend one.


Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
LES
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

sanwa rd6000
"Mike" <mikespruce99@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20030508125653.29122.00000034@mb-m15.aol.com...
> >
> >Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps

better
> >off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
> >another transmitter in the future for the Heli?

>
> Noooo...most trannies will do both these days. In any case, you want to

aim to
> buy a tranny that will be suitable for a helicopter, as this is the more

fussy
> of the two requirements, then you can 'dumb it down' to fly a plane.
>
> I have no idea whats available in your area, or what you want to pay, so

I'll
> decline to recommend one.
>
>



Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Stu.
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

Field Force 6


Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Heli Genius
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

FF6 is the WORST choice. It has no pitch or throttle curves. JR X662 is a
much better bet at the same price as the FF6. Even better, the X378 could
be had for another 50 if your budget is flexable enough. The X662 has
three point curves and 6 channels whilst the X378 has an extra channel and 5
points. I had a FF6 to begin with and sold it for half what I'd paid for it
6 months later - this is about the time it took me before I NEEDED pitch &
throttle curves. If however you only ever want to hover and cruise around,
the FF6 may fit the bill.

HG


Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Chuck W
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing


"Photoniq" <photoniq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1052411654.614746@sj-nntpcache-5...
> Hi -
>
> I am about to enter the world of radio control flying. I will start with
> planes (because that is what I can afford) and will move on to Heli's

later.
> Because of this I was hoping you could advise me as to what transmitter I
> should buy. It needs to be one that is not so complicated that I will go
> nuts trying to work out how to use it.
>
> Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps

better
> off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
> another transmitter in the future for the Heli?
>
> If so which trasmitter would you recommend for my plane? Remember - I am

a
> complete newbie!
>
> Cheers,
> phoTToniq.
>
>
>


If it requires an extra month or so of savings, get a computer radio that
can support multiple swashplates. Once you're ready to get into heli's that
will open up a much larger field of choices. This is experience talking, by
the way.

-Chuck W


Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
LES
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

like i told you sanwa rd 6000 (computer tranny)
has pitch curve and throttle curve setting, head locking for gyro's
and support multiple swashplates, and is 6 channels, 8 model memorey and has
much much more will do heli's fixed wing and gliders, the best of the 200
set's around but there are better if you want to pay more
"Chuck W" <cwiley101@comcast.spamdeath.net> wrote in message
news:5_SdnfC_PtCKCiejXTWcpw@comcast.com...
>
> "Photoniq" <photoniq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1052411654.614746@sj-nntpcache-5...
> > Hi -
> >
> > I am about to enter the world of radio control flying. I will start

with
> > planes (because that is what I can afford) and will move on to Heli's

> later.
> > Because of this I was hoping you could advise me as to what transmitter

I
> > should buy. It needs to be one that is not so complicated that I will

go
> > nuts trying to work out how to use it.
> >
> > Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps

> better
> > off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
> > another transmitter in the future for the Heli?
> >
> > If so which trasmitter would you recommend for my plane? Remember - I

am
> a
> > complete newbie!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > phoTToniq.
> >
> >
> >

>
> If it requires an extra month or so of savings, get a computer radio that
> can support multiple swashplates. Once you're ready to get into heli's

that
> will open up a much larger field of choices. This is experience talking,

by
> the way.
>
> -Chuck W
>
>



Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Chuck W
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing


"LES" <LESLIEROGERS@members.v21.co.uk> wrote in message
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> like i told you sanwa rd 6000 (computer tranny)
> has pitch curve and throttle curve setting, head locking for gyro's
> and support multiple swashplates, and is 6 channels, 8 model memorey and

has
> much much more will do heli's fixed wing and gliders, the best of the 200
> set's around but there are better if you want to pay more
> "Chuck W" <cwiley101@comcast.spamdeath.net> wrote in message
> news:5_SdnfC_PtCKCiejXTWcpw@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Photoniq" <photoniq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1052411654.614746@sj-nntpcache-5...
> > > Hi -
> > >
> > > I am about to enter the world of radio control flying. I will start

> with
> > > planes (because that is what I can afford) and will move on to Heli's

> > later.
> > > Because of this I was hoping you could advise me as to what

transmitter
> I
> > > should buy. It needs to be one that is not so complicated that I will

> go
> > > nuts trying to work out how to use it.
> > >
> > > Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps

> > better
> > > off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
> > > another transmitter in the future for the Heli?
> > >
> > > If so which trasmitter would you recommend for my plane? Remember - I

> am
> > a
> > > complete newbie!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > phoTToniq.
> > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> > If it requires an extra month or so of savings, get a computer radio

that
> > can support multiple swashplates. Once you're ready to get into heli's

> that
> > will open up a much larger field of choices. This is experience

talking,
> by
> > the way.
> >
> > -Chuck W
> >
> >

>
>


Whether or not a specific brand is better than another is up to what you
have around you. In an area where Sanwa or Airtronics is popular, that
might be the best way to go. If none of your shops carry stuff for them,
and no one around you owns one, then buying that brand would be pretty dumb.
I have owned Airtronics, Futaba, and Hitec radios. I have never had a
problem with any of them, except lacking support from local shops when I
moved (in the military).

-Chuck W


Old May 09, 2003, 04:01 AM
Philip Martin
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

Let me put another spin on it. The number of channels. Regardless of the
make 6 IS going to be a limiting factor if you 'get into' the hobby. So as
much as the FF6 is not really recommended, so is any other 6 channel set-up.
I've been there, done that and now got a 9 channel rig, as it happens a
Futaba 9C.

The Futaba 9C can deal with Heli (multi swash options), Acro (Planks) and
Glider set-ups. This comes with 8 program memories and the option to add
memory packs to expand that.

How come 9, well without yet having a governor onboard I'm already using 7
channels! So if funds will allow, look for as many channels (regardless of
make) that you can afford. Ohh and programming these things aint rocket
science so don't worry too much about that side of it)

Phil Martin.



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Old May 10, 2003, 04:00 AM
Max_Throws
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

I'm not too up to date on JR radios but I started with an RD6000 and fly a
FF9 now. As an entry level radio, I think the RD6000 heli functions beat the
FF6 heli functions hands down, no doubts. I set up my buddys raptor on a FF6
and it was very limited. So in terms of an entry level radio for helis, well
the RD6000 should be seriously considered. I'm sure the airplane features in
this radio are very good also...someone else may want to comment on that as
I don't fly planks...yet.

If you genuinely reckon you are going to stick with the hobby then one of
the midrange radios are really worth a look(if you can afford it). The two
most popular here would be the JR3810 and the FF9.

I would not buy a seperate transmitter to fly planes and helis, it makes no
sense as there are many affordable options to do both quite well.

you said in you post..." I will start with planes (because that is what I
can afford) and will move on to Heli's later." If your more interested in
flying helis than planes, I would say keep saving your cash for a bit longer
and get a heli. Of course I'm biased. If planes are your thing and your
happy to see helis somewhere in the future, great also.

Best of luck and let us know what radio you go for.





"Photoniq" <photoniq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1052411654.614746@sj-nntpcache-5...
> Hi -
>
> I am about to enter the world of radio control flying. I will start with
> planes (because that is what I can afford) and will move on to Heli's

later.
> Because of this I was hoping you could advise me as to what transmitter I
> should buy. It needs to be one that is not so complicated that I will go
> nuts trying to work out how to use it.
>
> Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I perhaps

better
> off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my plane and then buying
> another transmitter in the future for the Heli?
>
> If so which trasmitter would you recommend for my plane? Remember - I am

a
> complete newbie!
>
> Cheers,
> phoTToniq.
>
>
>



Old May 10, 2003, 04:00 AM
Beav
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing


"Max_Throws" <dn@somehwere.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not too up to date on JR radios but I started with an RD6000 and fly a
> FF9 now. As an entry level radio, I think the RD6000 heli functions beat

the
> FF6 heli functions hands down, no doubts.


Does the 600 allow for PCM operation? That't the MAIN thing any prospective
heli radio buyer shoud look at. I THINK the 600 does, but I've not got one
here to play with and find out, but even so, I'd still advise anyone getting
SERIOUS about heli's to consider something a little "better".

I set up my buddys raptor on a FF6
> and it was very limited. So in terms of an entry level radio for helis,

well
> the RD6000 should be seriously considered. I'm sure the airplane features

in
> this radio are very good also...someone else may want to comment on that

as
> I don't fly planks...yet.
>
> If you genuinely reckon you are going to stick with the hobby then one of
> the midrange radios are really worth a look(if you can afford it). The two
> most popular here would be the JR3810 and the FF9.


Exactly, and both are excellent radio's.

>
> I would not buy a seperate transmitter to fly planes and helis, it makes

no
> sense as there are many affordable options to do both quite well.
>
> you said in you post..." I will start with planes (because that is what I
> can afford) and will move on to Heli's later." If your more interested in
> flying helis than planes, I would say keep saving your cash for a bit

longer
> and get a heli. Of course I'm biased. If planes are your thing and your
> happy to see helis somewhere in the future, great also.


I agree with this too. If planes are simply a "stepping stone" to heli's,
then don't get one, save your cash for a few more weeks and get right tot he
heli's.



--
Beav


Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
(with the obvious changes)

Beavisland now lives at
www.beavisoriginal.co.uk


Old May 10, 2003, 04:00 AM
Max_Throws
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

"Beav" <beavis.original@ntloxoworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Max_Throws" <dn@somehwere.com> wrote in message
> news:kTJua.12501$pK2.16660@news.indigo.ie...
> > I'm not too up to date on JR radios but I started with an RD6000 and fly

a
> > FF9 now. As an entry level radio, I think the RD6000 heli functions beat

> the
> > FF6 heli functions hands down, no doubts.

>
> Does the 600 allow for PCM operation? That't the MAIN thing any

prospective
> heli radio buyer shoud look at. I THINK the 600 does, but I've not got one


Yep, it does have PCM capability.


> here to play with and find out, but even so, I'd still advise anyone

getting
> SERIOUS about heli's to consider something a little "better".


Absolutely, it's false economy to go for an entry level radio when you know
in your mind you are serious about the hobby.


>
> I set up my buddys raptor on a FF6
> > and it was very limited. So in terms of an entry level radio for helis,

> well
> > the RD6000 should be seriously considered. I'm sure the airplane

features
> in
> > this radio are very good also...someone else may want to comment on that

> as
> > I don't fly planks...yet.
> >
> > If you genuinely reckon you are going to stick with the hobby then one

of
> > the midrange radios are really worth a look(if you can afford it). The

two
> > most popular here would be the JR3810 and the FF9.

>
> Exactly, and both are excellent radio's.
>
> >
> > I would not buy a seperate transmitter to fly planes and helis, it makes

> no
> > sense as there are many affordable options to do both quite well.
> >
> > you said in you post..." I will start with planes (because that is what

I
> > can afford) and will move on to Heli's later." If your more interested

in
> > flying helis than planes, I would say keep saving your cash for a bit

> longer
> > and get a heli. Of course I'm biased. If planes are your thing and your
> > happy to see helis somewhere in the future, great also.

>
> I agree with this too. If planes are simply a "stepping stone" to heli's,
> then don't get one, save your cash for a few more weeks and get right tot

he
> heli's.
>
>
>
> --
> Beav
>
>
> Please note my E-mail address is "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com"
> (with the obvious changes)
>
> Beavisland now lives at
> www.beavisoriginal.co.uk
>
>



Old May 10, 2003, 04:00 AM
Carl Farrington
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

LES wrote:
> like i told you sanwa rd 6000 (computer tranny)
> has pitch curve and throttle curve setting, head locking for gyro's
> and support multiple swashplates, and is 6 channels, 8 model memorey
> and has much much more will do heli's fixed wing and gliders, the
> best of the 200 set's around but there are better if you want to pay


What happens when u add a Gov'nor? Ooops.. No channel 7!

Try a JR X-378 for not much more money. Buy a used heli with the servos in
it, and get the JR TX Only.

> more "Chuck W" <cwiley101@comcast.spamdeath.net> wrote in message
> news:5_SdnfC_PtCKCiejXTWcpw@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Photoniq" <photoniq@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1052411654.614746@sj-nntpcache-5...
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> I am about to enter the world of radio control flying. I will
>>> start with planes (because that is what I can afford) and will move
>>> on to Heli's later. Because of this I was hoping you could advise
>>> me as to what transmitter I should buy. It needs to be one that is
>>> not so complicated that I will go nuts trying to work out how to
>>> use it.
>>>
>>> Am I being crazy trying to buy a controller to do both? Am I
>>> perhaps better off buying a 4 channel controller for flying my
>>> plane and then buying another transmitter in the future for the
>>> Heli?
>>>
>>> If so which trasmitter would you recommend for my plane? Remember
>>> - I am a complete newbie!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> phoTToniq.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> If it requires an extra month or so of savings, get a computer radio
>> that can support multiple swashplates. Once you're ready to get
>> into heli's that will open up a much larger field of choices. This
>> is experience talking, by the way.
>>
>> -Chuck W



Old May 10, 2003, 04:00 AM
Steve Simpson
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Re: Best Beginner Transmitter For Both Heli and Fixed Wing

> What happens when u add a Gov'nor? Ooops.. No channel 7!

Adding the Futaba GV-1 does not require a channel. You can use one or two or three for various
purposes, but it is not a necessity.

>
> Try a JR X-378 for not much more money. Buy a used heli with the servos in
> it, and get the JR TX Only.
>



This may not be the case these days or in all locations, but when buying my JR 8103, I found
that no one stocked the TX alone, only the sets, so it would take longer to get the TX alone as
is was a special order item.

Also I found that by the time you added up the individual prices of the Tx, the battery, the
frequency module, and the charger, you could nearly have bought the whole set.

I bought the set and sold the servos to a buddy for about half price and that was enough to make
up the difference. So essentially, I got the PCM Rx for free.

The only way it makes sense to me to buy a 'starter' radio is if you know for sure you can sell
it to another newbie in your club. I did this with my first computer radio . . . a JR 6xx as I
recall.

Better yet, BE the newbie who buys a second hand radio from someone in your club.

I personally would not consider spending money for a new low end radio (been there, wasted
that), nor buy a second hand radio from anyone that I didn't know or was not in my club.












 


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