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Old May 06, 2003, 04:30 PM
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Lost Art -- The BEAUTIFUL Girl On Model Airplane Magazine Covers

I miss the beautiful bikini-clad girl on the cover of English language model airplane magazines.

As a matter of fact, my mind had become so sterile within the "politically correct world" that it wasn't until I saw the most recent French issue of RCM that I thought "U.S. magazine's are doing something WRONG, really W-R-O-N-G ! ! !"

There on the cover is Clara Morgane, one of France's top "glamour models"- edited by moderator, adorning a big French stunt model. And there was plenty more inside the issue -- a poster of her with airplane even!

This sells model airplane magazines, and there is absolutely NOTHING pornographic about the pictures. And there is plenty of Sinsheim 2003 in the issue to boot!

Comments please.

Moderator edits have been made to this thread, please consult the forum posting guidelines- specifically those concerning any material which would make uncomfortable reading for children or the parents of children
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Old May 06, 2003, 05:01 PM
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Edited by moderatorNaw, I never look at that stuff. The models I go for are made of balsa and plastic. On the other hand, better post a picture so I am able to make a more informed comment. Just so I can see what your talking about, of course. Actually, several pictures would be even better. Huh? LeRoy

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Old May 06, 2003, 05:39 PM
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You know, the car show isn't as fun anymore either. It used to be great to go and blow a few rolls of film.
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Old May 06, 2003, 05:45 PM
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LeRoy,

You've got me in a bind here. Copyright prohibits me from scanning the French RCM photos. Any way, I don't own the magazine issue, but I'm considering buying it. I was looking at one while visiting Jürgen Heilig's residence this afternoon.

But if you do a Google search for "Clara Morgane" you'll come up with about 33,100 hits -- but, unfortunately, all in French. And none of these online photos, even the clothed images, are appropriate in The E Zone's Discussion Group nor Photo Gallery. But maybe in a future eflight article?...bikini-clad or more, of course.

Tekochip,

Nice reply!


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Old May 06, 2003, 06:37 PM
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One thing I noticed when flicking through a US mag recently was the number of adverts featuring glamourous women pretending to fly r/c models ... absolutely unheard of in the UK mags (which gave up the 'girl plus model' cover shots long ago)!
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Old May 06, 2003, 09:01 PM
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Not putting scantily clad girls on the covers of model magazines I believe is not a sign of "politically correct world" but one of maturity in the magazine producers.

Do you buy magazines purely based upon the picture on the front cover?

If the answer is "yes" then there is already a whole genre of magazines filled to the brim with these pictures already available.


These pictures do not bother me but they do lower my opinion of the magazine producer.

Sorry but I think a return to this type of promotion would be a step backwards for the hobby.

"Do not judge a book by its cover"


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Old May 06, 2003, 09:11 PM
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Reminds me of William Randolph Hearst's quote "Show me a magazine with a picture on the cover of a pretty girl, a dog, or a child, and I'll show you a magazine that sells."

In the seventies, National Lampoon took the advice, and printed a cover of a fifties-era pretty mom serving a cooked dog on a platter to a child, but it didn't exactly work.
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Old May 06, 2003, 09:36 PM
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The thing is, Heather's right.

Shame it makes life so boring for the vast majority of model fliers.

I think it's something to do with men and women being from different species

Let's face it, those pictures of women pretending to fly model aircraft appear in a magazine where a whip-round of which staff members could fly might come up with a very low number of "cans" against legions of 'can'ts'.

Having been reading UK model mags for a while, what surprised me was that the stuffy old squeaky US of A had far more 'interesting' shots well before the Brit mags caught on to them.

And if you think you ever saw 'racy' or "non-politically correct" ads in US mags, you've probably not seen the early 80's ads for a range of covering film in many colours and a rather cool Cutlass flying wing semiscale in the UK mags.

On the whole, I prefered "political correctness" when I used to read about it in the Sunday Times before moving over here - they devoted up to a quarter page to the latest "howlers", undoubtably from their Washington or NY offices, as a joke column. That's really where it belonged to me - finding out that people actually in believed in it came as a nasty shock.

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Old May 06, 2003, 10:28 PM
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James, thanks anyway, but I was joking about you posting photos. LeRoy
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Old May 07, 2003, 12:36 AM
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Just so that you know what Jim is talking about. Jürgen

No offense to the female readers. How many are there on E-Zone anyway?
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Old May 07, 2003, 01:24 AM
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Yes!

Quote:
Originally posted by Heather

Do you buy magazines purely based upon the picture on the front cover?

Heather
Heather:

I sometimes do. Scenerio: "R/C Flight Mag A" is on the shelf next to "R/C Flight Mag B." Mag A has pretty woman on the cover holding a Tx, with topics x, y, z. Mag B has the similar topics x, y, z and some geek with a plane on the cover. You bet I pick up Mag A first and peruse it. If the content looks to be somewhat similar, I'll buy Mag A.

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Old May 07, 2003, 02:15 AM
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Heather,
No great insight into this thread but I'm curious whether you lent your opinion to the "How does r/c rate for meeting women?" thread or did you not want to go there? I have a 12 yr old daughter and she has not the slightest interest in planes! I put it down to mars and venus but just wondered if it would make a difference if I flew a plane on the campus of MIT against a scenario where I fly a plane on the campus of a women's only university.

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Old May 07, 2003, 05:21 AM
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Shaneyee: "How does r/c rate for meeting women?" I did not participate in this thread as the answer seemed a bit too obvious! ie very poorly.

As for the reasons why, they are far more complex. I can only give a viewpoint from my own perspective. I believe the largest reason that women are not very active in this hobby is peer pressure from an early age.

I was not the average little girl.... I left my rag doll outside in the rain for the dog to chew on, preferring to pull apart old valve radios and electrical junk instead. For my 11'th birthday I got just what I wanted.. a single cylinder working steam engine, a year later at Christmas, a multimeter!

I have my parents to thank for supporting what ever I was interested and not trying to persuade me to do things more 'appropriate' for a girl.

However as I got older the pressure's to conform with the social norms can be very strong. It just depends on your character to whether you can hold your own.

Hopefully attitudes are changing but I think it will be many years yet before an influx of female modelers enter the Ezone.

Heather


PS: Taste is obviously a subjective thing but in the words that come to mind over that picture, not one of them is "Art".
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Old May 07, 2003, 05:55 AM
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Now that I think about it, much of my daughter's likes and dislike are in line with her peers. Guess she's not the teen rebel her mother and I think she is!

Thanks and happy flying!

Shane
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Old May 07, 2003, 06:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jurgen Heilig
Just so that you know what Jim is talking about. Jürgen

No offense to the female readers. How many are there on E-Zone anyway?

You are a good man Jurgen. I'm sick of all these pc whiners! There is absolutely nothing wrong with that picture, even without the black rectangles!

Fantastic plane as well!
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