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Old Nov 08, 2012, 07:49 PM
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I'm talking about when it's hissing with rain by the lake side and the patch has had to come off for some reason .
Toni this Barbados when it rains we stay home would not want to catch a cold tony/g
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 02:20 AM
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JimS,

I am sure there are a few sailmakers in San Diago. Visit one and ask if they have any offcuts of the sticky dacron that they cut out into sail numbers. Failing this, they may be coerced into selling you a piece, half a yard or so. May cost you ten bucks or so, but it will last a couple of years. This material can be removed and replaced many times without the 'stick' failing.

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Jim as Ralph said just stick your head into a sail maker and ask them if you can go through their sticky back bin thats what I do, might coat me $10 but they never say no
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 05:17 AM
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Say Tug,
where can I get some hull access cover patch material that will work well on an IOM?. the stuff I have now is stick-on and it gets stuck on so well that removing it is a bit of a pain.. perhaps I'm using the wrong stuff, or not cutting it out correctly.. and I've never applied it with soapy water either.. JimS
Dacron sticky back or VYNL used in the sign making buisness work just fine the latter is my preference as it gets tight for a perfect finish,removal of either fabrick should be done with a Q tip and lacquer thinner TO SOFTEN THE GLUE AS YOU LIFT IT UP otherwise it is possible to rip the paint up.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 05:30 AM
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TO SOFTEN THE GLUE AS YOU LIFT IT UP otherwise it is possible to rip the paint up.
Not on my boats I get them done by a car painter in 2 pak, nice and strong
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Mike / Tug,
I'll check them both out. Thanks.
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 09:21 AM
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removal of either fabrick should be done with a Q tip and lacquer thinner TO SOFTEN THE GLUE AS YOU LIFT IT UP otherwise it is possible to rip the paint up.
After appling the first patch, don't take it off just cut the hatch open and leave boarder around the outter edges hatch stuck to the deck, then apply new patch over the top, then you will have no problems possibly peeling paint off.
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After appling the first patch, don't take it off just cut the hatch open and leave boarder around the outter edges hatch stuck to the deck, then apply new patch over the top, then you will have no problems possibly peeling paint off.
Great idea !
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 12:53 PM
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Dacron sticky back or VYNL used in the sign making buisness work just fine the latter is my preference as it gets tight for a perfect finish,removal of either fabrick should be done with a Q tip and lacquer thinner TO SOFTEN THE GLUE AS YOU LIFT IT UP otherwise it is possible to rip the paint up.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o00_s00_i00
this may not work but the colors look cool.. will advise..
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 02:48 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o00_s00_i00
this may not work but the colors look cool.. will advise..
Don't waste your money those type of films get brittle and tear very easily my club mate insists on using a material like that this year at the RM Nationals at Fleetwood his boat sank because after an impact the film tore open.

This is what you need.
http://www.bgsailsanddesignstore.big...patch-material
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 02:51 PM
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Patches made from signmakeres vinyl are OK. But to be bulletproof ask for some offcut laminated stuff! Absolutely low zero proof! Used this myself for years and its free!
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Old Nov 09, 2012, 06:44 PM
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I can back up ToniG's story with one from many years ago, when at an IOM event, I witnessed the demise of one boat which had been in a tangle in 'C' rig conditions and the other boats main boom end sliced the film patch and down she went in less than a minute. The funny thing was that the casualty was recovered more than six months later when the reservoir was drained for maintenance, but not knowing who it belonged to, the water board crew left it sitting on a bench in their workshop for a further six months before the owner claimed it. I am led to believe that one of the servos still worked. The insurance company had paid out on a new replacement, an Italico, which more recently changed hands and was sailing at this years UK Nationals.

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Old Nov 10, 2012, 05:54 AM
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I am not about to get into a debate over deck patches so to each thier own,i have seen 2 Pack paint come up on a well known builders boat while any fabrick applied wet will stick but needs a little time to dry first using your finger to squeege out the water from the contact area helps alot.Best bet is to dry it first with paper towel before removal or it goes gloop.
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Old Nov 10, 2012, 10:44 AM
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should be done with a Q tip and lacquer thinner TO SOFTEN THE GLUE AS YOU LIFT IT UP otherwise it is possible to rip the paint up.
Go really careful doing this. Laquer thinner will lift a lot of paints. I would try a hair dryer first.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 01:27 AM
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Paint Protection Film (PPF)

I have heard of some that have first put a layer of "paint protection film" down around the area that the deck patch sticks too. Then when the deck patch is
removed it is removed from the film that stays in place instead of pulling at the
paint. I am thinking of trying this method BUT started thinking, the film is a pretty
slick/smooth surface, does the patch material (sail insignia material from a sail-
maker) come off harder from the PPF?? If anyone has used this system can
you advise pro's/con's ?

Chris B.
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Old Nov 11, 2012, 08:44 AM
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Lacquer thinners gets on fine with 2 pac paint i actually clean off the old glue before reapplying,if the boat was painted on the cheap with a lesser quality paint that would be another story.
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