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View Poll Results: Global warming, what is it to you? (You can vote on more than one)
Real threat? 6 10.53%
Real farce? 38 66.67%
Real mystery? 17 29.82%
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Old Dec 04, 2009, 11:39 PM
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Global warming.... I had to do it. (sigh)

Lets see the numbers here.
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Old Dec 04, 2009, 11:54 PM
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Hi Bill , I voted real mystery because im not a scientist and so I have to trust them to tell me the truth . But im not 100% convinced they are telling me the truth , Thus the mystery vote . Tell ya what , I sure hope global warming isnt real , I dont need a tan that bad
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 12:58 AM
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In light of recent revelations I voted farce, but am open to being proved wrong.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:26 AM
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Real mystery. At this point we know nothing whatsoever about it for sure. The only valid approach is to can all the suspect work and data (which is everything) and start fresh. If we're going to base any future decision making on it, lets try to do the work honestly this time.

You do NOT start with a conclusion and then develop a case around supporting it. The correct approach is to begin with raw data, collate and correlate it, then go where what it leads you.

BTW we also need to start an effort to recover all the public funds that were wasted from the dishonest individuals that wasted it cooking up propoganda. Ask Kwame Kilpatrick about how much fun it is to pay back $1 million you screwed the public out of, after you're tossed off the public gravy train !
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:48 AM
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According to my personal experience, winter has been 4-6 weeks late for the last 5-8 years. I have no idea what is causing it or if anything can be done about it. I only know that I absolutely hate the overcast skies and continuous rain - indoor helicopters have only a limited amusement value.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:58 AM
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For me and my personal observation there are far less deposits of snow and cold weather here.
Mostly due to the removal of old growth forests.
But over all I say that climate warming and cooling is pretty much cyclic and beyond human control.
In the span of life on planet earth.

There are alarmists a plenty concerning HCGW but most are for profit.
The email exposure/scam is revelation enough IMHO..
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 08:26 AM
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A tricky one.

But I find it hard to believe that just one small group of climate researchers at the East Anglia CRU could fool that many people through out the world.

Are we saying that all the other researcher in all the other countries took the information at face value and never queried it ?.

Surely there are two questions really regarding GW.

1. Is it happening ? (no matter what is causing it).

2. If yes, is it being made worse by man made gases ?

I still do not have a real clue.

But I do feel the 'No' followers are saying that, not based on scientific judgment, but on 'how much will it cost me if I accept it'.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 11:12 AM
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I voted farce as I do not believe that it is caused by man. Global warming and cooling are a natural thing as evidenced by history. Passing laws is not going to change this. Passing laws about it are about as futile as passing a law against the tides and then standing at the waters edge at low tide and screaming when you get wet as the tide comes in.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 11:15 AM
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I voted mystery.
The reason why is simple. Yes, there was global warming. And for the last 10 or 11 years there has been global cooling.
Back in the 70's there was global cooling also. That was when James Hansen of NASA, declared that an ice age was coming...........the story made newsweek magazine.
To date, the only thing that has been proven...........is that mother nature is in control.
Not us.


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Old Dec 05, 2009, 11:37 AM
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I voted farce because of the way the data has been diddled, but it is technically a mystical farce or a farcical mystery.

After we've been keeping standardized records for a few millions years, we might get a partial grip on the situation. But not if it's the Al Gore Institute!
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:05 PM
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So you're saying that man cannot possibly influence the global temperature, and that 'greenhouse gases' are a myth ?

Could someone point to a believable non-biased site that agrees ?

Edit - By 'you're saying', I mean those who don't believe man can cause GW.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:17 PM
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So you're saying that man cannot possibly influence the global temperature, and that 'greenhouse gases' are a myth ?

Could someone point to a believable non-biased site that agrees ?

Edit - By 'you're saying', I mean those who don't believe man can cause GW.
Why speculate, lets wait on accurate verifiable data.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:33 PM
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The real irony is that if the pro warming folks had simply been open and honest with their data and honored FOIA requests this would probably have long been settled.
That is of course unless the whole thing is a scam.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 01:42 PM
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The real irony is that if the pro warming folks had simply been open and honest with their data and honored FOIA requests this would probably have long been settled.
That is of course unless the whole thing is a scam.
Totally agree, anytime you have to "cook" the books.... somethings fishy with the bigger picture.
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Old Dec 05, 2009, 02:11 PM
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I call farce just because humans can adapt to almost any conditions, and a warmer climate should be one of them. We have abandoned cities all over the southwest from peoples who ran into drought or hostiles and moved on.

My latest thought: The $787 BILLION Stimulus Bill? Should have been used on building 100 nuclear power plants, knocking down our evil C02 production while building a real future for the country, instead of fulfilling the Democrat wish list of goodies.
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