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Old Dec 01, 2009, 04:38 AM
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does it came with a kit, or you should buy it for extra money
What exactly is your question? There are two drive system sets for the Xeno. Standard, with a 20A ESC, Himax C 2212-1180 and a 8x5" folding prop, and Tuning, with a 30A ESC, Himax C 2816-1220 and a 9x6" folding prop.

If you want to use your own ESC and motor, you need to buy all the necessary parts individually.

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 05:16 AM
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that was my question... thanks
when i buy Xeno i'l will not get any props or shaft at all? so i need also to buy 22 4111 (can't find a price )
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Old Dec 01, 2009, 05:55 AM
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that was my question... thanks
when i buy Xeno i'l will not get any props or shaft at all? so i need also to buy 22 4111 (can't find a price )
The Xeno kit includes only the components for the glider/sloper version.

You need M 332654 for the standard drive system, or M 332655 for the tuning drive system.

M 22 4111 is just the plastic parts for the "motorized Xeno"

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 06:00 AM
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Neat

I wanna see this thing fly too
Well, there has already been a video of the prototype available on Youtube since 13. August:

Multiplex Xeno (1 min 0 sec)


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Old Dec 01, 2009, 06:05 AM
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The Xeno kit includes only the components for the glider/sloper version.

You need M 332654 for the standard drive system, or M 332655 for the tuning drive system.

M 22 4111 is just the plastic parts for the "motorized Xeno"

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These are full Xeno power set # 33 2654 and Xeno Tuning power set # 33 2655
But i wish to use my own esc and motor, what should i buy then?
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Old Dec 01, 2009, 06:56 AM
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But i wish to use my own esc and motor, what should i buy then?
In this case, you would need:

- Drive cowling # 22 4108
- Canopy # 22 4109
- Plastic parts # 22 4111
- Drive shaft with collets for Ø 3mm/4mm motor shafts # 73 3505
- Spinner assembly Ø 35 mm, with blade holder and adapter # 73 3504
- Folding prop 9x6" # 73 3492

Assuming all these parts are already available, expect to pay approx. €70.-

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 07:00 AM
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damn.. too much.
Xeno is flying away from me i'm saaad
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Old Dec 01, 2009, 07:10 AM
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damn.. too much.
Xeno is flying away from me i'm saaad
You could of course build something yourself (like the Robbe's Sportwing drive: http://www.hobbydirekt.de/images/pro...s/RH1-3284.jpg), but it's not really the same as an integrated solution.

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 07:43 AM
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yes
i think Plastic parts # 22 4111 will be enough for me to make it electric.
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Old Dec 01, 2009, 07:52 AM
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Extra, excerpt from documentation:
"...power set assembly, # 33 2654 / # 33 2655 - parts not included in the kit!...
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Old Dec 01, 2009, 07:57 AM
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I intended it for FPV purpose, but it seems not the right wing, based on the new findings.
Glad I switched last week to other model, mainly because the local MPX dealer told me no chances for this year.

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If you mount the motor in the back, you would need a lot of extra weight in the nose to achieve the correct CG. If you wanted to fly without motor at the slope, you would have to remove the additional weight.

The idea behind the "power pod" with motor shaft extension is a very quick "configuration change" without having to re-adjust the CG.

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 11:16 AM
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I was wondering if you could run some CF across the wing and convert it to a DLG?

Saving that, I wonder if you could make this bird a screamer with a mega 16/15 3

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 11:42 AM
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Saving that, I wonder if you could make this bird a screamer with a mega 16/15 3

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Put that motor in a Projeti and you have a screamer. The Xeno is much bigger and therefore has much more drag than the Projeti.

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Old Dec 01, 2009, 12:01 PM
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What I would really like to do is set it up with a Really light power system. I have a Twin Jet with two Micro Dan speeds on it, and its so light I can elevator it down inverted, also cruse mid field at 1/2 throttle, pull vertical, add power and it accelerates on the upline.

Is the Xeno the same size as a Zagi?


What about the DLG idea?
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Old Dec 01, 2009, 01:14 PM
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Is the Xeno the same size as a Zagi?

What about the DLG idea?
The standard Zagi has a wingspan of 48" and a wing area of 2.03 sq ft.
The Xeno has a wingspan of 49", but a wing area of 3.55 sq ft.

I think the Xeno would be too heavy for DLG.

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