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Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:25 AM
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A German's View on Islam

I received this email today, and thought is would be worth sharing.

This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.

A German's View on Islam
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant... It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout
Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:

Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:43 AM
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I received this email today, and thought is would be worth sharing.

[I]This is one of the best explanations of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.
No, it isn't.

From the horse's mouth?

http://inrepair.net/2008/01/20/why-t...is-irrelevant/

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Posted April 7, 2008 at 6:19 am | Permalink
I did not write the article attributed to me; I have forwarded it to some friends. Someone put my name as the author. I am not German but a Holocaust survivor from Poland. Obviously, I am aware of the danger of fanaticism. My book Passport to Life (Amazon.com) gives some of my reflections on the subject of fanaticism.
The author of the article you are referring to was Paul E. Marek of Saskatoon, Canada. The original Title was Why The Peaceful Majority Is Irrelevant. Paul E. Marek is a second-generation Canadian, whose grandparents fled Czechoslovakia just prior to the Nazi takeover. He wrote it in February of 2006.
See http://inrepair.net/wp-content/uploa...is-irrelevant/
Also http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ar...icle.aspx/6996

Emanuel Tanay
Just so you know.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:44 AM
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A lot of truth in that. Passively 'supporting' these fanatics allows them to continue their actions.

Unfortunately, the trick is to avoid becoming a fanatic alongside these ones, as this just aggravates the problem.

You know the problem, yet another passionate group who believe they should 'kill the enemy' (the problem of fighting a War to give Peace - a bit of a conundrum - as it then allows your own fanatics to be in charge, witness the McCarthy Communist hunts etc)

Tricky!
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 07:49 AM
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The author doesn't matter so it makes no difference.

So tell you what, I'll make a point so you'll know who the author is.

And the point is this: In Germany, a small group of radicals ended up in positions of power and pushed an agenda that most of the German citizens didn't support.
The problem then is the same problem now with a small group of radical Socialists in power here in America, and that is that the majority of the country's citizens don't have the will nor the courage to take their country back, and the citizens are paying the consequences of their inaction and their mediocrity by allowing this small band of thieves, radicals and Socialists (same thing) to promote their own brand of tyranny.


There 'ya go, Leccy. Snopes that and see if I refuted writing it.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:01 AM
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....The problem then is the same problem now with a small group of radical Socialists in power here in America, and that is that the majority of the country's citizens don't have the will nor the courage to take their country back, and the citizens are paying the consequences of their inaction and their mediocrity by allowing this small band of thieves, radicals and Socialists (same thing) to promote their own brand of tyranny......
Is that 'coz it's not your brand of radicalism or thievery, HF?
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:24 AM
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Is that 'coz it's not your brand of radicalism or thievery, HF?
A huge component of the lethargy is that we have made a "pre-eminent cultural surrender" to radicals in the name of timid political correctness and a fear of being labeled as "racists" or "phobic" of some kind.

During WWII, American culture knew it's values, knew that it's values were superior (there, I said it) to the radicals in Germany and their friends, and we had the will and determination to make sure that we kept our values and fought those who would change those values that we cherished.

All of that is gone today, and there is no American culture of values. All we have now is a watered down bunch of citizens who are so afraid to proclaim what they believe and not care about the consequences that they accept all sorts of radical values intruding into our society.

So yea, I'll put "my" values over the values of the radicals all around us any day of the week, and I'm not afraid of what those radicals or anyone else thinks of me, including you and your veiled attempt at belittling those values I hold that are superior to those who would enslave us for their own purposes.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:34 AM
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A huge component of the lethargy is that we have made a "pre-eminent cultural surrender" to radicals in the name of timid political correctness and a fear of being labeled as "racists" or "phobic" of some kind.

During WWII, American culture knew it's values, knew that it's values were superior (there, I said it) to the radicals in Germany and their friends, and we had the will and determination to make sure that we kept our values and fought those who would change those values that we cherished.

All of that is gone today, and there is no American culture of values. All we have now is a watered down bunch of citizens who are so afraid to proclaim what they believe and not care about the consequences that they accept all sorts of radical values intruding into our society.

So yea, I'll put "my" values over the values of the radicals all around us any day of the week, and I'm not afraid of what those radicals or anyone else thinks of me, including you and your veiled attempt at belittling those values I hold that are superior to those who would enslave us for their own purposes.
But there you are wrong, HF. I don't belittle your values at all! I'd much rather have 'definite' people around me - they are far more interesting. And I'm happy for you to believe in and feel whatever you want.

The thing is, I have my own values - held as strong as yours (err... you may have noticed). On a number we overlap, which is fine. What I don't want is someone to decide their values must be my values - and I care not a Monkeys Cuss if the person doing it is American, Jewish, Catholic, Chinese, Martian or whatever!

The only person entitled to change their values is the person itself, and I'm not going to persecute that person just because they think differently to me.

I would, however, persecute them if they actively did something about it (just in case you think I'm a namby-pamby pacifist. )
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:35 AM
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That MOST of the German citizens didn't support....................

You obviously meant SOME of the German citizens didn't support ?

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The author doesn't matter so it makes no difference.

So tell you what, I'll make a point so you'll know who the author is.

And the point is this: In Germany, a small group of radicals ended up in positions of power and pushed an agenda that most of the German citizens didn't support.
The problem then is the same problem now with a small group of radical Socialists in power here in America, and that is that the majority of the country's citizens don't have the will nor the courage to take their country back, and the citizens are paying the consequences of their inaction and their mediocrity by allowing this small band of thieves, radicals and Socialists (same thing) to promote their own brand of tyranny.





There 'ya go, Leccy. Snopes that and see if I refuted writing it.
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That MOST of the German citizens didn't support....................

You obviously meant SOME of the German citizens didn't support ?
Many Germans were unaware of the atrocities.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:42 AM
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They say not to become a fanactic trying to get control of another fanactic. So how do you go about it? I'm into harse punishment for the radicals that practice, Death to all that don't go along with their views.


Even when the passive people tell a group to stop, the group doesn't. Peer presure doesn't work on radicals. All that is left to get control is, brute force. Then start teaching the new generations that radical behavior will not be tolerated.

I'm guilty of being to passive in the past and can see what the article is saying and I agree with it.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 08:48 AM
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That MOST of the German citizens didn't support....................

You obviously meant SOME of the German citizens didn't support ?
Maybe the Reich Fox News of the day used pictures from another rally to boost the crowd size?
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Many Germans were unaware of the atrocities.
Spot on - MANY were - most were pretty clued up - I've German friends who came to the UK post war - it's taken them half a century to grudgingly admit that even they had a notion but in the post war climate, weren't about to say much on that score - I've sympathy with that - it's understandable, but the Nazi's were very popular in the 1930's make no mistake!
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Maybe the Reich Fox News of the day used pictures from another rally to boost the crowd size?
I go to Nuremburg with the job - all the buidlings are intact - as is 'the Grosse Strasse' where these pics were taken - the scale is immense!

Here's another pic or two - the Die Grosse Strasse is recent and shows how well built the infracstructure was
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Maybe the Reich Fox News of the day used pictures from another rally to boost the crowd size?
The Ministry of Propaganda under Joseph Goebbels, certainly would make sure no adverse information leaked out.
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Old Nov 24, 2009, 09:00 AM
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I go to Nuremburg with the job - all the buidlings are intact - as is 'the Grosse Strasse' where these pics were taken - the scale is immense!

Here's another pic or two - the Die Grosse Strasse is recent and shows how well built the infracstructure was
That's amazing.

It's especially nice that you were there at the Libertarian Rally for that first shot. Schweeet
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