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Old Jul 25, 2011, 09:28 PM
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I am looking for a plan that is easy for a first time builder. I want to use the gear out of a battered sukhoi with the p-51 motor. A wing plan would be cool but remember this is a first time build.

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Rick
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 09:33 PM
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I am looking for a plan that is easy for a first time builder. I want to use the gear out of a battered sukhoi with the p-51 motor. A wing plan would be cool but remember this is a first time build.

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Rick
I did this as my first ever build. It was fun--more than I thought it'd be.
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Old Jul 25, 2011, 11:51 PM
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I am looking for a plan that is easy for a first time builder. I want to use the gear out of a battered sukhoi with the p-51 motor. A wing plan would be cool but remember this is a first time build.

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Rick
go here http://www.stevensaero.com/UltraMicr...p-1-c-336.html
it doesnt get any better for 1st time builds
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 06:49 AM
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I did this as my first ever build. It was fun--more than I thought it'd be.
Beautiful plane. I am looking for a stable airplane. A 3d style plane looks a little scary! We (sons and me) are still learning and I would like to know a little more of the flight characteristics.

You used a brush-less set-up. Would stock p-51 work?

Thanks for the reply and the excellent plans. I am guessing that if printed the Adobe files should be at a 1:1 scale.

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Old Jul 26, 2011, 07:05 AM
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Actually, mine's brushed. Same motor you'd find in a 4Site, UM P-51, and Su-26XP. I think if you turn the rates down and expo up, the plane is quite stable.

Admittedly, the first plane entirely for me was a 38" DW Foamies Yak-54. Even though it's a 3D aircraft, mine's a little under-powered, so I learned to fly it more scale/sport style and as I got more brave, started tossing in extra maneuvers
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 07:07 AM
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Actually, mine's brushed. Same motor you'd find in a 4Site, UM P-51, and Su-26XP. I think if you turn the rates down and expo up, the plane is quite stable.

Admittedly, the first plane entirely for me was a 38" DW Foamies Yak-54. Even though it's a 3D aircraft, mine's a little under-powered, so I learned to fly it more scale/sport style and as I got more brave, started tossing in extra maneuvers
I have a dx5. No expo. How would it fly of low rate w/o expo?
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 07:10 AM
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I'm pretty sure it would. I've got a DX6i, and have flown it (accidentally) on low rates a couple times. Scared myself when I did because I'm used to flying in a small area and turning at the last moment because the big control surfaces + high rates means I can turn on a dime, lol.
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 01:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure it would. I've got a DX6i, and have flown it (accidentally) on low rates a couple times. Scared myself when I did because I'm used to flying in a small area and turning at the last moment because the big control surfaces + high rates means I can turn on a dime, lol.
How fast is it?
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Old Jul 26, 2011, 02:03 PM
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It flies very slowly. You can see some videos in my build thread. In particular, note the small amount of space I'm flying in.
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 11:54 AM
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What is currently the cheapest way to get the Um Rx, servos, motor for custom builds? Cheaper to but a complete UM or buy the components?

Looking to possibly build a flat foamie UM F117 so would need the 2 seperate servos to mount on delta wing for elevon control.

I'm thinking its probbably as cheap to like a 4-site or something?

Also can the BRUSHED motors be reversed as this would need to be a push setup? (edit - I said brushless but menat brushed).
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 12:00 PM
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What is currently the cheapest way to get the Um Rx, servos, motor for custom builds? Cheaper to but a complete UM or buy the components?

Looking to possibly build a flat foamie UM F117 so would need the 2 seperate servos to mount on delta wing for elevon control.

I'm thinking its probbably as cheap to like a 4-site or something?

Also can the brushless motors be reversed as this would need to be a push setup?
the brushless motor reverse is an easy one, just swap two wires.
as for UM internals. i just got an AR6400 and servo off ebay at less than 1/3rd of the price of a whole aircraft. granted its 2nd hand but it is all complete and in very good condition.
also there are many new items for sale on Hobbyking for building UM aircraft.
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 12:02 PM
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the brushless motor reverse is an easy one, just swap two wires.
as for UM internals. i just got an AR6400 and servo off ebay at less than 1/3rd of the price of a whole aircraft. granted its 2nd hand but it is all complete and in very good condition.
also there are many new items for sale on Hobbyking for building UM aircraft.
Sorry meant to say brushed motor reverse since that is what most UM use.

Trying to decide to go with the brushed setup or perhaps pickup a Beast as a doner for a build as it would give a bit more power with brushless and allow for bigger size.

I'll check ebay and some local forsale listings.
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 12:59 PM
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Buy a new UM 4 site for $70, gut it and sell the airframe and box for $25.

You'll get a new L brick, 2 L servos and a Black belled, long lead motor motor for $45
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 01:01 PM
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Buy a new UM 4 site for $70, gut it and sell the airframe and box for $25.

You'll get a new L brick, 2 L servos and a Black belled, long lead motor motor for $45
Thanks, that is what I was thinking if I go brushed. But thinking on it more be nice to get rid of the gearbox setup that brushless would offer.

Perhaps I'll go with a Beast for $130 and fly it first then go from there if I ever have to pickup any pieces
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Old Jul 27, 2011, 01:04 PM
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Buy a new UM 4 site for $70, gut it and sell the airframe and box for $25.

You'll get a new L brick, 2 L servos and a Black belled, long lead motor motor for $45
Even better...just buy the 4Site, fly it and enjoy it for awhile, wait until it gets wrecked, then gut it.

Works better if you're like me and tend to be a little ham-fisted with the knife
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