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Old Mar 07, 2012, 08:26 AM
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seems big bird, what is the weight with all electronics and batt.?
Here is a link to the plane at hobbyking http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9468
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 10:35 AM
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I purchased 100 of the nanotech 160's last summer in preparation for this indoor season. I sold about half of them to others, and use the rest for the 5 family members who fly together. This means that we never had to worry about running out. $1.47 each came to $2 each after shipping.

We do a lot of higher current draw flying, hovering and such. I would say that on average, each of the cells we have have about 10 cycles on them. If there is any drop in capacity, I can't notice it (especially when there is always another charged battery to use)

I got 100 of these for $200.00. How many TP does that get you?
You can get about 22.
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 10:59 AM
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Here is a link to the plane at hobbyking http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...idProduct=9468
actually that's not the same one as ungn's. he has the kyosho one that is an epp kit.
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 12:46 PM
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actually that's not the same one as ungn's. he has the kyosho one that is an epp kit.
Yes. Mine is a Kyosho Christen Eagle II with Pkz Mustang electronics. AUW with a 160 battery is about 35g.

Here is a picture:



I was in Tokyo last week and they still had 3 channel planesets for about $100 USD.

I still have a the un modded one I bought for $65 USD, so I didn't buy another. Its in the build queue, but doesn't have a date.

They also had the minium AD Zero plane set for about $110. I was very temped to purchase one of those and If I wasn't meeting coworkers in Central Tokyo an hour later I may have picked one up (I didn't want to walk around Tokyo all day carrying a big box).

Going back to Tokyo at the end of March. I may pick up another AR6400 conversion plane (looking for a Minium Alpha Beaver)
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 01:52 PM
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Hi!
Do you know if spare parts are actually available in Tokyo? Here in Europe it's fairly easy to get hold of any Kyosho Minium/Minium Ad plane-kit, but impossible to get most spare parts.
I was just wondering... ?
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 03:44 PM
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What kind of flight times were you getting? What brand 160 cell?

I did a bit of poking around and found a Tiger branded T1302 and a clone at Hobby King. Even the branded one is reasonably priced, but I already have a small collection of reasonably priced single cell brushless motors that won't top the stock Parkzone setup.
It was the thunder power 160mah 25c. I checked my timer and i have it set at 3:00 minutes. I usually have some reserve battery left.

Did you see the thrust i got from the test on that thing? Is amazing. I dont think the umx motor/gear box gets that.

Bill
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 03:50 PM
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Sounds like a big trade-off. With the same lipo , I can get twice as much flight time (again with reserve) from the stock brushed equipment.
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 03:59 PM
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@UNGN

Hi!
Do you know if spare parts are actually available in Tokyo? Here in Europe it's fairly easy to get hold of any Kyosho Minium/Minium Ad plane-kit, but impossible to get most spare parts.
I was just wondering... ?
It's similar in Japan. They have 3 blade props, prop shafts, motors, decals, things like that, but I haven't found wings/tails and when I have, they are very expensive vs. what we paid for Parkzone minium spare parts.

I am going to pick up some 3 blade props next trip, however, as they were just a couple USD's for the Beaver props and about $3.50 USD each for Zero props with nose cone.
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 04:09 PM
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Not true! One must supply higher then the rated 3v to the LEDs or no current will flow and they will not light up. V=IR.

The resisters provided with the LEDs will limit the current but only at the specified voltage (or less voltage as long as still above the turn-on voltage of the LEDs). What voltage is the kit intended to illuminate at?
They are almost certainly designed to operate on the 5 volt output from
the receiver. At lower voltage, like 1 cell, they will be considerably dimmer,
and at higher voltage, in danger of damaging the LEDs.
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 05:04 PM
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Its at 5A. Don't plan on using any batteries smaller than 500mAh.

It will make ZERO thrust using a 160 mAh battery.
The current is around 3.6A, not 5A!!!
The thrust data are here:
http://www.gasparin.cz/?show=frames&...hatsnew&lng=en
Click on PRODUCTS
Click on BL MOTORS G15
CLICK on G15 12W 3.6V Bronco

A 240 mA.h 25C or 300 mA.h battery should be ok.

The thrust is not theorical. Gasparin makes motors which are more expensive but have good efficiency.
Of course, you have to use a good ESC...
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Old Mar 07, 2012, 06:30 PM
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The current is around 3.6A, not 5A!!!
The thrust data are here:
http://www.gasparin.cz/?show=frames&...hatsnew&lng=en
Click on PRODUCTS
Click on BL MOTORS G15
CLICK on G15 12W 3.6V Bronco

A 240 mA.h 25C or 300 mA.h battery should be ok.

The thrust is not theorical. Gasparin makes motors which are more expensive but have good efficiency.
Of course, you have to use a good ESC...
3.6A @ only 3.6V. I'll bet you a dollar its around 4.5A @ 4.2 volts.

Even at 3.6A it won't run for more than 20 seconds on a Nanotech 160 @ WOT before the Battery LVC's.

2S or a geared 1S outrunner makes way more sense.

At $83 USD, that motor makes Zero sense in 2012.
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Old Mar 08, 2012, 03:20 PM
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Sounds like a big trade-off. With the same lipo , I can get twice as much flight time (again with reserve) from the stock brushed equipment.
Could be the way i fly or try to take care of the battery. I have my timer set at 4:00 for the extra 300.

Bill
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Old Mar 08, 2012, 03:24 PM
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Admittedly, I NEVER fly WOT unless I absolutely have to, even for aerobatics.
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Old Mar 08, 2012, 06:33 PM
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I found a company that will import the Kyosho brand if anyone is interested. Not sure what the shipping costs will be but it shouldnt be THAT much.
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Old Mar 09, 2012, 08:52 AM
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Here are some in flight pictures of my vintage foam (out of production for about 30 years) free flight MRC Ryan ST-A conversion that I posted about earlier. Action is from the great TINY 2012 indoor event last weekend in San Angelo, TX.

Still need to weigh it, but I am guessing around 65 grams.

Orange prop is now black and a spinner and pilot figure is not far behind...
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