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Old Dec 12, 2009, 01:39 PM
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So the seller just admitted that their description and photo for the item
simply doesn't match what they have in stock? Or they have no
stock and would have tried to order direct from the manufacturer?
Or you just scared em into thinking they had the wrong thing?
I'm sure there's someone who's still got some of these around.
They were being sold in bulk lots originally.

ian
The seller said that their most recently received shipment was not the same as the ones they had in the past. At first it was the hard drive size that the new units could use. Then I told them about ChinaVasion not selling the recorder anymore but selling a hard drive enclosure using the same case as the recorder. I think they check it out and issued a refund. From my ordering to getting a refund was less than a hour, so I do not blame the seller.

I sent a message to another UK seller asking them to check their stock and get back to me.
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Old Dec 12, 2009, 01:46 PM
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Pinnacle Video Transfer uses 5V power input..So i try to power it up with 3 cell lipo and a 5v Ubec...
Also test my new video-splitter...

http://cgi.ebay.com/A79-New-1-to-4-m...item335820dce9

Hope the weather is good tomorrow...

Thanks
Well my bullet cam requires 9-12V. If a UBEC can provide enough amps to power a Pinnacle Video Transfer and an external hard drive through the Pinnacle Video Transfer, I could tap into a 10V battery pack, but it's still one more thing to haul around. I'd probably just use a memory stick though but would still need a 5v and 9-12V source. Possible.

I'll wait for a response from the other seller.
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Old Dec 12, 2009, 03:18 PM
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rkkennard+SoMoney :gum camera are OFF topic, because FPV user want
to record on the ground... i think that the AP section of the forum is more
appropriate to suggest your idea
Off topic? Not really... There are two types of FPV, Real-Time or Recorded. There is no way to tell the difference when posted here on RC groups untill you tell us yes this was all 100% Transmitted to my ground station, or NO this is recorded footage that was not.

While the Gum or Key chain Cams do not transmit a signal back to ground station, they still film in the FIRST PERSON PERSPECTIVE of the craft be it Plane, Dirt Bike, Automobile, or Bicycle for that matter.

They also make for GREAT crash videos! When the Video TX fails or fades out due to signal limitations or terrain, you have an uninterrupted perspective from the FPV of crafts last moments.
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Old Dec 12, 2009, 04:00 PM
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The seller said that their most recently received shipment was not the same as the ones they had in the past. At first it was the hard drive size that the new units could use. Then I told them about ChinaVasion not selling the recorder anymore but selling a hard drive enclosure using the same case as the recorder. I think they check it out and issued a refund. From my ordering to getting a refund was less than a hour, so I do not blame the seller.
But there is a possibility ....
1. Maybe they didn't have any in stock at all, or,
2. There was free shipping to the US and the cost was too much for them,

so they just wanted out of the deal.

Last I looked the auction was still open.....

OK, I'm done now............
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Old Dec 12, 2009, 04:54 PM
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They also make for GREAT crash videos! When the Video TX fails or fades out due to signal limitations or terrain, you have an uninterrupted perspective from the FPV of crafts last moments.
1 : 1 for you
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Old Dec 12, 2009, 11:32 PM
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Off topic? Not really... There are two types of FPV, Real-Time or Recorded. There is no way to tell the difference when posted here on RC groups untill you tell us yes this was all 100% Transmitted to my ground station, or NO this is recorded footage that was not.
By that logic we should start bringing all the various mini/micro/whatever HD
cameras that people are using onboard their planes these days.
They make no more sense in this thread, than do keychain cams and
the like.

As for a true onboard recorder. I'm still waiting for someone in the FPV business
to make one. What I really really really want, is a micro sized recorder that takes
SDHC cards for hours of capacity, has a video input and output (just a couple servo
connectors) maybe one or two buttons to start and stop, and records h.264 or
mpeg4 video at greater than 5-6Mbit/s. I don't need HD quality. I want a
100% clean SD video signal recorded onboard. The electronics for all that are
already in something like the Aiptek MPVR+CB and if you got rid of the camera
and screen and battery etc, the core electronics should be able to be compacted
down to something no bigger than your thumb. I've suggested it a few times and
have been told by one of the FPV products designers that there'd just be no
demand for it. I think they're wrong. I think everyone would want one once they
saw the difference in quality of the same signal recorded onboard, versus transmitted
to the ground.

ian
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Old Dec 12, 2009, 11:38 PM
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By that logic we should start bringing all the various mini/micro/whatever HD
cameras that people are using onboard their planes these days.
They make no more sense in this thread, than do keychain cams and
the like.

As for a true onboard recorder. I'm still waiting for someone in the FPV business
to make one. What I really really really want, is a micro sized recorder that takes
SDHC cards for hours of capacity, has a video input and output (just a couple servo
connectors) maybe one or two buttons to start and stop, and records h.264 or
mpeg4 video at greater than 5-6Mbit/s. I don't need HD quality. I want a
100% clean SD video signal recorded onboard. The electronics for all that are
already in something like the Aiptek MPVR+CB and if you got rid of the camera
and screen and battery etc, the core electronics should be able to be compacted
down to something no bigger than your thumb. I've suggested it a few times and
have been told by one of the FPV products designers that there'd just be no
demand for it. I think they're wrong. I think everyone would want one once they
saw the difference in quality of the same signal recorded onboard, versus transmitted
to the ground.

ian

I would buy an onboard recorder like that.
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 01:03 AM
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wouldn't something like this work?(stripped down)


http://www.supercircuits.com/Digital...ro-DVRs/MDVR14
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 01:30 AM
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Frame rate is too low, and I can guarantee you that its bitrate is pitiful.
All the micro recorders designed for "spy" applications have ridiculously low
bitrates. You don't need 5-6Mbps when you've got a camera pointed
at a empty room for 23 1/2 hours.

ian
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 02:21 PM
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I've never tried these, but from the description, this should be about DVD quality

Channels 1
Compression Type MPEG4
Low Frame Rate (fps) 19
Low Resolution 352x240
Max Frame Rate (fps) 24
Max Resolution 740x480
SD Card Reader yes
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 02:24 PM
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just wondering, do u want the osd data to be recorded as well?
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 02:33 PM
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I'll wait for a response from the other seller.
Another UK seller apparently doesn't have the BR3002 actually in stock. They order and have shipped from China. Returns have to go back to the shipper in China, not the seller.

This is getting weird.

May I should just buy a box of Crayons and some paper.....
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 04:06 PM
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So Guys, is there a definitive for any of the following:
"Best bang for your buck"
"Best for use with laptop"
"Best overall"

??

Thanks in advance!
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 04:12 PM
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I see this being mentioned not enough. Ticks all the boxes.

http://www.inesun.com/show-13210,HDDE-0036-09H4.html
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Old Dec 13, 2009, 04:40 PM
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Hey guys- any ideas on this? I'm looking for a video camera that does video in AND video out.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1157291

thanks!
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