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Old May 16, 2010, 11:10 PM
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Tsparks, looks Very nice!
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Old May 17, 2010, 03:17 PM
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Taylor--your ship looks great, and I know about loosing control from personal experience. Surprise has been beached several times for one reason or another. I have not had a dead transmitter but I have had a dead servo battery in the hull and the loss of control is the same. I also had trouble with my original rigging the first few times out but once I learned to sail I had less problems.

I hope you are able to join us. We are still looking for a lake less crowded with boaters and bathers. Smaller might be better. I will let you know and bring the CLIPPER for sure and for certain. RG
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Old May 17, 2010, 04:05 PM
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that is one beautiful clipper tsparks, do you only say with the square fore topsail or doyou use more than that ?
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Old May 17, 2010, 04:34 PM
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meatbomber,
The only square sail I'm using is the topsail. I don't have any additional connections for more square sails. That topsail puts a lot of heel into the boat as it is, which I thought I had compensated for with the keel fin. But after my short trip at the pond, I saw it getting knocked down pretty easily. I might need to look at a deeper fin or one with more surface area.
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Old May 17, 2010, 07:17 PM
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I have just figured out how to layer the music with the cannon sounds. The next flick is going to be better.

Sparks--things ain't too bad yet, you haven't shot yourself in the leg as Lt. Dan has done. Well I did it too but I was still learning.
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Old May 17, 2010, 08:21 PM
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things ain't too bad yet, you haven't shot yourself in the leg as Lt. Dan has done.
"Bad" kinda depends on if the leg he shot was the leg he was aiming for, don't you think?

LOL
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Old May 17, 2010, 09:11 PM
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Taylor - she's beautiful. How long?
I see the Stars n Bars! We have the Surprise outnumbered! I'll send the secret flag codes to you soon....
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Old May 18, 2010, 01:18 PM
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ahem, the "Stars and Bars" are something else...
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Old May 18, 2010, 01:36 PM
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Oh, Okay...Stars n Stripes....
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Old May 18, 2010, 02:06 PM
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ahem, the "Stars and Bars" are something else...
ok, so who's dat?

DanL, it's 61" LOA. (maybe a little shorter after sundays crash, but I'll fix that.)
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Old May 18, 2010, 02:23 PM
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Is the Valdivia model 1:24th scale?
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Old May 18, 2010, 02:30 PM
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No Sir, it be 1:20th, not exactly in the same league as paratrooper and DanL, but I try.
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Old May 18, 2010, 02:41 PM
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I intend to do the Pride of Baltimore (first) in 1:24 which should put her at 45" on deck. I wanted to do her in 1:36 (30" on deck), to scale with Constellation - but that sharp Baltimore Clipper hull doesn't have any room in it at that scale. 1:20 would make her 54" on deck. Hmmmm?
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Old May 18, 2010, 04:07 PM
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Actually, it's around 40", but thats just counting from one end of the deck planking to the other. If you include things like bow stems and sharply angled transoms, it comes out to more like 44".

So, now I'm confused.

Robbe's documentation always stated that the base kit was a 1:20 scale, but all their measurements are in metric. Does scale change if you change the unit of measure?

What exactly do you measure to determine what scale you are at?

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Old May 18, 2010, 04:31 PM
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Boats the size of Valdivia and Pride often are referred to by Length-on-deck - which, basically, is the longest length a deck plank can lay flat on beams.

Length on waterline is a common reference. Pride was 79' on the waterline (with the rudder), that's 79*12/24=39.5" in 1:24 or 47.4" in 1:20th. She was 90' on deck so the rake of her stem and stern added 11 feet.

Long overhanging ends vs short ends and inverted transoms, etc can make waterline vs deck length kind of odd to deal with when comparing boat sizes.

Scale is scale regardless of measurement - 1/20 of a meter is the same as 1/20th of 39 inches (or whatever a meter equates in inches).

As for model size, I subscribe to the idea that the biggest model you can transport and launch is best. Bigger sails better and more realistically, it's easier to see what it's doing out there, and it commands a lot more "Wow!" from observers.
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