HK-450 Learning to hover

kr33su · Nov 02, 2009, 06:11 PM

Beginner setup with motor and ESC from twister 3D Storm. 10T pinion.
Comments, suggestions, tips always welcome

Fist time post here....

HD version on youtube :

Tail in hover practice - HK-450 (1 min 38 sec)

THX-181 · Nov 02, 2009, 08:21 PM

Good job, keep up the practice!

kr33su · Nov 02, 2009, 08:53 PM

Thank you

Just received my Turnigy 3700 11T pinion
Installing now with HexTronik 36amp ESC. Hopefully the results will be better

guitaramp68 · Nov 03, 2009, 03:58 PM

is this your first heli.hovers great. i will have mine by this weekend.cant wait
happy hoverin,amp

kr33su · Nov 03, 2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guitaramp68

is this your first heli.hovers great. i will have mine by this weekend.cant wait
happy hoverin,amp

Thank you

It's not my first heli though, I've had 4ch and Walkera 36 which I couldn't get to fly properly at all.

This one, I built myself, much better outcome than Walkera 36. With 36 I ended up trying to tweak it to get it stable than actual practice flying with it.

Quite happy with the outcome so far with this one. Hopefully I'll actually get to practice flying this time more than tweaking.

trevjonez · Nov 03, 2009, 07:58 PM

i just got my first heli last week and it is also an hk450 im comfortable with hovering and basic manuvers and starting into the other orientations as i'm all tail in right now. set mine up with some align wood blades a friend gave me and the turnigy 3700kv motor with a 12t pinion and the 10$ 40A esc from hobbycity i think its a tower pro with purple heat sink.

i wanted to ask. my plastic tail stabilizer is VERY flimsy and would vibrate terribly until i CA'd a piece of carbon rod to it. did you have the same problem? also be sure to buy some align feathering shafts. the stock one will bend on the slightest bump!

i do have to say its pretty durable im on my 3rd set of blades already but thanks to friends having parts to fix it i havn't had to purchase any replacement parts.

perfect beginner heli

kr33su · Nov 03, 2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevjonez

i just got my first heli last week and it is also an hk450 im comfortable with hovering and basic manuvers and starting into the other orientations as i'm all tail in right now. set mine up with some align wood blades a friend gave me and the turnigy 3700kv motor with a 12t pinion and the 10$ 40A esc from hobbycity i think its a tower pro with purple heat sink.

i wanted to ask. my plastic tail stabilizer is VERY flimsy and would vibrate terribly until i CA'd a piece of carbon rod to it. did you have the same problem? also be sure to buy some align feathering shafts. the stock one will bend on the slightest bump!

i do have to say its pretty durable im on my 3rd set of blades already but thanks to friends having parts to fix it i havn't had to purchase any replacement parts.

perfect beginner heli

You're right, the feathe shaft does bend quite easily. I've got 6 spare now, lol. I didn't have problem with the tail stabilizer vibration that much though, I got my Turnigy 3700 kV motor yesterday, I'll be testing with 11T pinion first.

The motor in that video is Twister 450 motor with 10 Tpinion.

What TX are you using? I'm using the cheap 2.4 GHz from hobby king. So far it's doing ok.

trevjonez · Nov 03, 2009, 10:21 PM

im running a dsx9 tx ( same as the jr9303 2.4 except most of the switches are backwards example being throttle hold is on left and flight mode on right) and im using the spektrum ar6100e receiver working great so far. but it is a bit much of a radio for just a 6ch heli but i bought it for the extra mixes it gives vs my old dx6i.

what gyro and tail servo did you use?

kr33su · Nov 04, 2009, 12:09 AM

You're a lot more up market there than me. I have to visit the computer everytime I want to make a change on the transmitter settings!!

What's the throttle and pitch curve settings you're using?

kr33su · Nov 04, 2009, 12:15 AM

Gyro is Telebee Head Lock & Standard (yellow cable not connected to receiver) only used as head lock and adjustments changed directly on the gyro

Tail servo is also cheap slow HXT900 , all four servos the same .

kr33su · Nov 04, 2009, 05:06 AM

New motor , new blades, new ESC and new canopy.

Same place, same crappy weather, same novice pylott.

HK-450 with New Motor Turnigy 3700kV and new canopy (2 min 12 sec)

trevjonez · Nov 04, 2009, 08:13 PM

looks quite a bit smoother than the other setup you like it any better?

KCinNC · Nov 04, 2009, 08:40 PM

good deal man ! looks pretty stable & smooth

kr33su · Nov 04, 2009, 10:46 PM

Thanks guys, nice to hear positive feed back

I like the new motor and pinion setup better. More head speed. I need to find the best throttle and pitch curve combination that suits me.

It's easier to take me where I want to go and get back to hover status from some movement without wobbling too much with this.

My transmitter control is only through computer so what I do is have the same throttle setting for both normal and idle up and have slightly different pitch curve for normal and idle up. It's easier for me to then judge which direction to go up or down in the curves.

It's probably common knowledge but I thought I'd mention in case if it helps someone reading this

Not enough time to play around

trevjonez · Nov 05, 2009, 08:19 AM

i'm still setup in in normal mode will likely have the guys at the field help me setup sport mode (st1) and stunt mode(st2) saturday when we are all out flying. im getting the hang of tail in and moving to my side orientations. it wierd i can't hover while in those orientaions but if im moving forward im absoluely fine. i think its because im used to flying planes :P heli's are crazy fun!

so did you order the upgrade head and tail units yet? i found a set on ebay of both for 40 shipped but they have yet to arrive. even then i'll likely wait until another crash to install them.

trevjonez

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Nov 02, 2009, 08:21 PM	#2
THX-181 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Longmont Colorado Posts: 25	Good job, keep up the practice!

Nov 02, 2009, 08:53 PM	#3
kr33su Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	Thank you Just received my Turnigy 3700 11T pinion Installing now with HexTronik 36amp ESC. Hopefully the results will be better

Nov 03, 2009, 03:58 PM	#4
guitaramp68 guitarflyer Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 647	is this your first heli.hovers great. i will have mine by this weekend.cant wait happy hoverin,amp

Nov 03, 2009, 07:58 PM	#6
trevjonez Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 201	i just got my first heli last week and it is also an hk450 im comfortable with hovering and basic manuvers and starting into the other orientations as i'm all tail in right now. set mine up with some align wood blades a friend gave me and the turnigy 3700kv motor with a 12t pinion and the 10$ 40A esc from hobbycity i think its a tower pro with purple heat sink. i wanted to ask. my plastic tail stabilizer is VERY flimsy and would vibrate terribly until i CA'd a piece of carbon rod to it. did you have the same problem? also be sure to buy some align feathering shafts. the stock one will bend on the slightest bump! i do have to say its pretty durable im on my 3rd set of blades already but thanks to friends having parts to fix it i havn't had to purchase any replacement parts. perfect beginner heli

Nov 03, 2009, 10:21 PM	#8
trevjonez Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 201	im running a dsx9 tx ( same as the jr9303 2.4 except most of the switches are backwards example being throttle hold is on left and flight mode on right) and im using the spektrum ar6100e receiver working great so far. but it is a bit much of a radio for just a 6ch heli but i bought it for the extra mixes it gives vs my old dx6i. what gyro and tail servo did you use?

Nov 04, 2009, 12:09 AM	#9
kr33su Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	You're a lot more up market there than me. I have to visit the computer everytime I want to make a change on the transmitter settings!! What's the throttle and pitch curve settings you're using?

Nov 04, 2009, 12:15 AM	#10
kr33su Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	Gyro is Telebee Head Lock & Standard (yellow cable not connected to receiver) only used as head lock and adjustments changed directly on the gyro Tail servo is also cheap slow HXT900 , all four servos the same .

Nov 04, 2009, 08:13 PM	#12
trevjonez Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 201	looks quite a bit smoother than the other setup you like it any better?

Nov 04, 2009, 08:40 PM	#13
KCinNC that's gonna leave a scar Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Marina Village, NC Posts: 1,222	good deal man ! looks pretty stable & smooth

Nov 04, 2009, 10:46 PM	#14
kr33su Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 16	Thanks guys, nice to hear positive feed back I like the new motor and pinion setup better. More head speed. I need to find the best throttle and pitch curve combination that suits me. It's easier to take me where I want to go and get back to hover status from some movement without wobbling too much with this. My transmitter control is only through computer so what I do is have the same throttle setting for both normal and idle up and have slightly different pitch curve for normal and idle up. It's easier for me to then judge which direction to go up or down in the curves. It's probably common knowledge but I thought I'd mention in case if it helps someone reading this Not enough time to play around

Nov 05, 2009, 08:19 AM	#15
trevjonez Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 201	i'm still setup in in normal mode will likely have the guys at the field help me setup sport mode (st1) and stunt mode(st2) saturday when we are all out flying. im getting the hang of tail in and moving to my side orientations. it wierd i can't hover while in those orientaions but if im moving forward im absoluely fine. i think its because im used to flying planes :P heli's are crazy fun! so did you order the upgrade head and tail units yet? i found a set on ebay of both for 40 shipped but they have yet to arrive. even then i'll likely wait until another crash to install them. trevjonez