EDF Design Contest for 2010??? - Page 3

space 1 · Nov 03, 2009, 07:55 AM

EDF Design Contest for 2010??? you said Design. did i win

Joshua Wesley · Nov 03, 2009, 08:00 AM

I would like to see a couple different size catagories. Its much easier to build a complex, well finished jet in a larger size due to the thrust to weight ratio. But as for foam, balsa, composit, hybrid, or concrete, who cares.

pdawg · Nov 03, 2009, 11:26 AM

Just my initial idea on a few classes that are easy to classify

Scale
Non-scale
Small (2B defined later)
Big (2B defined later)

eatond · Nov 03, 2009, 12:33 PM

Hi Gene,
I got a design almost ready to go so I'd be in and I know a couple of other RCGroup folks here in Saint Louis with new designs going that would probably enter also.

Dan Eaton

EDF Phantom · Nov 03, 2009, 01:41 PM

Please keep the Feed Back comming..................

turbonut · Nov 03, 2009, 08:14 PM

Humm ...I have one to try!

Knife Liddle · Nov 03, 2009, 08:14 PM

Sounds like good inspiration to build something new. I`m in.

MattinAZ · Nov 04, 2009, 01:27 PM

I would suggest 2 classes based on wing span and keep the rest up to the designer. If it looks great, flys great and wins, what does the building material matter. Who really cares what materials it is made of???.

32" WS and under
over 32" WS.

Steve C · Nov 04, 2009, 03:36 PM

I agree with open construction, but wingspan is not the greatest way to catagorize jets. Think F-104 vs. P-80. If they had the same wingspan, you could fit a few P-80 fuses inside the F-104!

Keep sport jets and scale jets separate, or bonus points for scale?

Steve C

Stuey · Nov 04, 2009, 03:45 PM

I hope this happens, come on all you clever guys get designing!!

Tumbler · Nov 04, 2009, 04:24 PM

What about just breaking it down by airframe size and/or fan size. Ex. 50-60mm, 70-90mm, and then 100mm+. Obviously a lot more goes into make a 100mm size jet than a 50mm, so it is hard to judge them the same....regardless of what they are made off.

Brian

Tumbler · Nov 04, 2009, 04:45 PM

Oh yeah I am in BTW, so let's finalize the rules and start designing!

I am mostly worried about KnifeLiddle.....you come up with some unique creations with your kit bashes.

You have to start from scratch on this one though buddy.

Brian

MattinAZ · Nov 04, 2009, 05:05 PM

I like the fan size categories.

Have 2 - up to 80mm and 80mm+

Matt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbler

What about just breaking it down by airframe size and/or fan size. Ex. 50-60mm, 70-90mm, and then 100mm+. Obviously a lot more goes into make a 100mm size jet than a 50mm, so it is hard to judge them the same....regardless of what they are made off.

Brian

Lance Nordby · Nov 04, 2009, 05:24 PM

I agree that the construction shouldn't matter. I personally don't like working with foam but if it looks good and flies well, indeed, why should it matter?

I agree it should be kept simple.

I like Matt's above and below 80mm sizes but I would add belly floppers vs. retract equipped airframes to make four catagories. As far as I'm concerned fiddling with retractable gear is as much work as the rest of the airplane. It wouldn't be fair to pit a flopper against a retracter.

Kevin Cox · Nov 04, 2009, 06:51 PM

Hmm.
Here is my take on it

2 catergories: Scale and other

Additional point(s) awarded for retractable landing gear (all catergories)

Additional point(s) awarded for cockpit detail (scale only)
Additional point(s) for multi fan models (all catergories)
Additional point(s) for scale features; i.e. parachutes, airbrakes, opening canopies, LE(slats) and/or TE flaps, etc. must have at least 2 operational. If it has swing wings or thrust vectoring, that quailfies as 2 (all)

We can add more...or less
I think it rewards the guys that put in the extra effort but doesn't discourage anyone.

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Nov 03, 2009, 08:00 AM	#32
Joshua Wesley Turbine Mechanic Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fruita, CO Posts: 751	I would like to see a couple different size catagories. Its much easier to build a complex, well finished jet in a larger size due to the thrust to weight ratio. But as for foam, balsa, composit, hybrid, or concrete, who cares.

Nov 03, 2009, 11:26 AM	#33
pdawg Gordo Gone Wild Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back in L.A. Posts: 2,697	Just my initial idea on a few classes that are easy to classify Scale Non-scale Small (2B defined later) Big (2B defined later)

Nov 03, 2009, 12:33 PM	#34
eatond Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Louis Intl, Missouri, United States Posts: 1,179	Hi Gene, I got a design almost ready to go so I'd be in and I know a couple of other RCGroup folks here in Saint Louis with new designs going that would probably enter also. Dan Eaton

Nov 03, 2009, 01:41 PM	#35
EDF Phantom You can't see me I'm a Phantom Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 303	Please keep the Feed Back comming..................

Nov 03, 2009, 08:14 PM	#36
turbonut Airland Hobbies Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: upland CA Posts: 4,203	Humm ...I have one to try!

Nov 03, 2009, 08:14 PM	#37
Knife Liddle Lee Liddle Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lewisville, Tx Posts: 2,234	Sounds like good inspiration to build something new. I`m in.

Nov 04, 2009, 01:27 PM	#38
MattinAZ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Gilbert,AZ Posts: 955	I would suggest 2 classes based on wing span and keep the rest up to the designer. If it looks great, flys great and wins, what does the building material matter. Who really cares what materials it is made of???. 32" WS and under over 32" WS.

Nov 04, 2009, 03:36 PM	#39
Steve C Up and at 'em F-35 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Lodi CA Posts: 2,145	I agree with open construction, but wingspan is not the greatest way to catagorize jets. Think F-104 vs. P-80. If they had the same wingspan, you could fit a few P-80 fuses inside the F-104! Keep sport jets and scale jets separate, or bonus points for scale? Steve C

Nov 04, 2009, 03:45 PM	#40
Stuey Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Aylesbury,UK Posts: 575	I hope this happens, come on all you clever guys get designing!!

Nov 04, 2009, 04:24 PM	#41
Tumbler Go Fast or Go Home! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,413	What about just breaking it down by airframe size and/or fan size. Ex. 50-60mm, 70-90mm, and then 100mm+. Obviously a lot more goes into make a 100mm size jet than a 50mm, so it is hard to judge them the same....regardless of what they are made off. Brian

Nov 04, 2009, 04:45 PM	#42
Tumbler Go Fast or Go Home! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 4,413	Oh yeah I am in BTW, so let's finalize the rules and start designing! I am mostly worried about KnifeLiddle.....you come up with some unique creations with your kit bashes. You have to start from scratch on this one though buddy. Brian

Nov 04, 2009, 05:24 PM	#44
Lance Nordby I want to fly everything! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hillsboro, OR, USA Posts: 545	I agree that the construction shouldn't matter. I personally don't like working with foam but if it looks good and flies well, indeed, why should it matter? I agree it should be kept simple. I like Matt's above and below 80mm sizes but I would add belly floppers vs. retract equipped airframes to make four catagories. As far as I'm concerned fiddling with retractable gear is as much work as the rest of the airplane. It wouldn't be fair to pit a flopper against a retracter.

Nov 04, 2009, 06:51 PM	#45
Kevin Cox Flying for the return of MikeW Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: St. Louis Intl, Missouri, United States Posts: 5,262	Hmm. Here is my take on it 2 catergories: Scale and other Additional point(s) awarded for retractable landing gear (all catergories) Additional point(s) awarded for cockpit detail (scale only) Additional point(s) for multi fan models (all catergories) Additional point(s) for scale features; i.e. parachutes, airbrakes, opening canopies, LE(slats) and/or TE flaps, etc. must have at least 2 operational. If it has swing wings or thrust vectoring, that quailfies as 2 (all) We can add more...or less I think it rewards the guys that put in the extra effort but doesn't discourage anyone.