EDF Design Contest for 2010???

EDF Phantom · Nov 01, 2009, 09:06 PM

I want to know if there is any interest in an EDF Design Contest... It has been a while since we had one, and i was lucky enough to win the last one.

Lets bring back some good times on here with a Contest........

I would like 3 classes of pure EDF, class 1 Foamy and class 2 hand/bungee launch, Class 3 Gear/Retracts. no pushers since EDF means EDF.

Whats your feed back guys, or is the forum soo far out of wack that nobody want's to do it.

Gene

Tempest · Nov 01, 2009, 09:27 PM

Sounds like a good idea Gene!

I have something in the works and would be willing to throw my hat in the ring. Whether I finish it in 2010 is another story

.

Paul

Steve C · Nov 01, 2009, 09:39 PM

Sounds like a good idea. Most don't finish, but a few do and it ends up producing some neat stuff. I'm still out of wack though!

You'll have to define "foamie", since most like to put glass on them and then they're not much different than an all glass plane. Last contest I tried was an all wood class. Remember when planes used to be made from wood?

Steve C

LuvEvolution7 · Nov 01, 2009, 09:45 PM

maybe define "foamie" a little better then. LOL. since foam covered with glass would tehnically be a composite, maybe that should be included in the composite section, if there is one. I suppose that would be under class 3, cause most would put retracts on a more expensive jet.

I'de deffinitely be interested though, since I've got a few ideas up my sleeve for the off season. I'M IN! ! ! ! ! ! ! LOL.

Rich

speleopower · Nov 01, 2009, 10:31 PM

Sounds good to me. But I am not much of a designer so I will watch.

Foam could be limited to wing, tail cores only. I would rather see a well made and crafted all wooden model than a CNC milled foam job anyday.

-Scott

EDF Phantom · Nov 01, 2009, 11:00 PM

Foamy is foamy. If you cover it in glass it is still a foamy.

Foam core wings on a balsa or fiberglass fuse is not considered a foamy.

But a foamy can be under class 3, gear/retracts. Then it won't be in the foamy class.

Foamy class is basically depron type EDF

I will come up with some rules for the contest eventually. I don't know if I will run the contest or not. I will be talking to a few people about it. I was thinking of having a panel of judges as well as having an online voting system split 50/50.

This contest will probably be called the 2010/2011 EDF design contest. That way people can get their maidens done in the spring time of 2011. This should be plenty of time.

corsair nut · Nov 01, 2009, 11:26 PM

hatin' on the depron. what if you can make it look better than a balsa model? you know we can.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDF Phantom

Foamy is foamy. If you cover it in glass it is still a foamy.

Foam core wings on a balsa or fiberglass fuse is not considered a foamy.

But a foamy can be under class 3, gear/retracts. Then it won't be in the foamy class.

Foamy class is basically depron type EDF

I will come up with some rules for the eventually. I don't know if I will run the contest or not. I will be talking to a few people about it. I was thinking of having a panel of judges as well as having an online voting system split 50/50.

This contest will probably be called the 2010/2011 EDF design contest. That way people can get their maidens done in the spring time of 2011. This should be plenty of time.

monkamarm2000 · Nov 02, 2009, 12:44 AM

how bout best duct tape construction EDF! lol

think its the same stuff they use to make dil**'s

One Six Right · Nov 02, 2009, 12:52 AM

Subcribed.

What constitutes "design"? Shape?, Details?, Kitbashed, or scratch built only?
Are dwgs to reproduce it necessary, or can it be a "one off"?

AIR SALLY · Nov 02, 2009, 01:03 AM

Can it be a scale airplane or are you looking for sport type EDF?

EDF Phantom · Nov 02, 2009, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AIR SALLY

Can it be a scale airplane or are you looking for sport type EDF?

any kind as long as it's EDF......

Erik v. Schaik · Nov 02, 2009, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corsair nut

hatin' on the depron. what if you can make it look better than a balsa model? you know we can.

Then you are not qualified as a balsa bascher, but you can make a plug out of it

Great contest Gene!
I have been thinking to go underground for my current project, but a contest is a nice twist. Still I am at the start of the learning curve of composite moulding so I am not too sure I am able to speed the pace up within this timespan. I was planning composite fuse/foam cored wings. I already cut 39 formers for the fuse.

clausxpf · Nov 02, 2009, 06:24 AM

LuvEvolution7.
You are absolutely right on that glass covered foam is a composite construction, but try to get the moderators here understand that!

what is the difference in making a negative mold or a possitive mold for the epoxy/glass composite? It is still "composite"

Tecnically a balsa-covered foam core wing is also a composite construction.

Wikipedia says:
Composite materials (or composites for short) are engineered materials made from two or more constituent materials with significantly different physical or chemical properties which remain separate and distinct on a macroscopic level within the finished structure.

Claus

clausxpf · Nov 02, 2009, 06:29 AM

But that said .. I am in for that contest.
Claus

Nov 01, 2009, 09:06 PM	#1
EDF Phantom You can't see me I'm a Phantom Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 303	EDF Design Contest for 2010??? I want to know if there is any interest in an EDF Design Contest... It has been a while since we had one, and i was lucky enough to win the last one. Lets bring back some good times on here with a Contest........ I would like 3 classes of pure EDF, class 1 Foamy and class 2 hand/bungee launch, Class 3 Gear/Retracts. no pushers since EDF means EDF. Whats your feed back guys, or is the forum soo far out of wack that nobody want's to do it. Gene Attached Thumbnails 55.1 KB · Views: 30 Last edited by EDF Phantom; Nov 08, 2009 at 12:29 AM.

Nov 01, 2009, 11:00 PM	#6
EDF Phantom You can't see me I'm a Phantom Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 303	Foamy is foamy. If you cover it in glass it is still a foamy. Foam core wings on a balsa or fiberglass fuse is not considered a foamy. But a foamy can be under class 3, gear/retracts. Then it won't be in the foamy class. Foamy class is basically depron type EDF I will come up with some rules for the contest eventually. I don't know if I will run the contest or not. I will be talking to a few people about it. I was thinking of having a panel of judges as well as having an online voting system split 50/50. This contest will probably be called the 2010/2011 EDF design contest. That way people can get their maidens done in the spring time of 2011. This should be plenty of time. Last edited by EDF Phantom; Nov 02, 2009 at 12:54 AM.

Nov 02, 2009, 12:52 AM	#9
One Six Right Not another MONSTER !! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Valencia, CA Posts: 2,801	Gene, Subcribed. What constitutes "design"? Shape?, Details?, Kitbashed, or scratch built only? Are dwgs to reproduce it necessary, or can it be a "one off"?

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Nov 01, 2009, 09:27 PM	#2
Tempest Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Gaithersburg MD, United States Posts: 656	Sounds like a good idea Gene! I have something in the works and would be willing to throw my hat in the ring. Whether I finish it in 2010 is another story . Paul

Nov 01, 2009, 09:39 PM	#3
Steve C Up and at 'em F-35 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Lodi CA Posts: 2,145	Sounds like a good idea. Most don't finish, but a few do and it ends up producing some neat stuff. I'm still out of wack though! You'll have to define "foamie", since most like to put glass on them and then they're not much different than an all glass plane. Last contest I tried was an all wood class. Remember when planes used to be made from wood? Steve C

Nov 01, 2009, 09:45 PM	#4
LuvEvolution7 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: St.Catharines, Ontario Posts: 126	maybe define "foamie" a little better then. LOL. since foam covered with glass would tehnically be a composite, maybe that should be included in the composite section, if there is one. I suppose that would be under class 3, cause most would put retracts on a more expensive jet. I'de deffinitely be interested though, since I've got a few ideas up my sleeve for the off season. I'M IN! ! ! ! ! ! ! LOL. Rich

Nov 01, 2009, 10:31 PM	#5
speleopower Hey Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cocoa Beach, Florida Posts: 2,470	Sounds good to me. But I am not much of a designer so I will watch. Foam could be limited to wing, tail cores only. I would rather see a well made and crafted all wooden model than a CNC milled foam job anyday. -Scott

Nov 02, 2009, 12:44 AM	#8
monkamarm2000 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Silicon Valley Posts: 11,105	how bout best duct tape construction EDF! lol think its the same stuff they use to make dil**'s

Nov 02, 2009, 01:03 AM	#11
AIR SALLY deltas are cool Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tehachapi ,CA. Posts: 7,750	Can it be a scale airplane or are you looking for sport type EDF?

Nov 02, 2009, 06:24 AM	#14
clausxpf Claus at Area 52 Join Date: May 2002 Location: copenhagen Denmark Posts: 1,604	LuvEvolution7. You are absolutely right on that glass covered foam is a composite construction, but try to get the moderators here understand that! what is the difference in making a negative mold or a possitive mold for the epoxy/glass composite? It is still "composite" Tecnically a balsa-covered foam core wing is also a composite construction. Wikipedia says: Composite materials (or composites for short) are engineered materials made from two or more constituent materials with significantly different physical or chemical properties which remain separate and distinct on a macroscopic level within the finished structure. Claus

Nov 02, 2009, 06:29 AM	#15
clausxpf Claus at Area 52 Join Date: May 2002 Location: copenhagen Denmark Posts: 1,604	But that said .. I am in for that contest. Claus