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Old Nov 02, 2009, 08:07 PM   #31
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Burning controllers??? That was SOOOOO last year Joe Mouris.
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Old Nov 03, 2009, 05:42 AM   #32
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The angle of attack versus forward speed makes sense. I will make partial throttle through the launch (now you tell me i will tip stall in addititon to the flames).
Correct.

I did some part throttle launches and nearly crashed it a few times. Now i am back to full power for launch. This produces far less torque roll. It is not the lack of thrust that is the problem, it's the torque that does it.

Also partial throttle as i wrote somewhere else will KILL the ESC if you are running more amps then the rating of the controller. This is the general rule you will learn to live with.

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Old Nov 03, 2009, 05:47 AM   #33
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So, are you going to get boring on us now Joe?

Lenny
Oh, so i am entertaining hu?!

Last year i managed to distroy so much equipment and most of it i believed at the time for no reason. Now i realise the Kontronik FAI18 is simply to small for F5B. The Phoenix LV controllers have a lack of copper. The MGM controllers have to many safety's. Old generation and cold Lipo packs will kill the ESC due to voltage ripple. And a fair few more lessons learnt like that.

We all have to start somewhere.

Joe

Now i have to go get ready to kick your but in Muncie.
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Old Nov 03, 2009, 05:49 AM   #34
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Burning controllers??? That was SOOOOO last year Joe Mouris.
While you where busy busting up a life times supply worth of Surprise's. I did all the ESC testing for you.

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Old Nov 03, 2009, 05:49 PM   #35
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While you where busy busting up a life times supply worth of Surprise's. I did all the ESC testing for you.


Sorry Kris, had to laugh at this one....
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Old Nov 03, 2009, 05:50 PM   #36
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Touche!
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Old Nov 04, 2009, 07:40 AM   #37
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How do you know that ?
I have my sources in the 'industry' Not!

Straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...2#post11883602

Vriendelijke groeten Ron
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Old Nov 05, 2009, 07:39 AM   #38
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Wrong attitude i think.

It is only likely to lead to dissapointment and put you off from flying F5B.

Buy something that is know to work, recommend CC P-180 with George mod.

Joe
Joe,
What is the George mod?
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Old Nov 05, 2009, 09:17 AM   #39
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What is the George mod?
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The George mod is here:-
http://f5b.co.uk/?q=node/180

There is a second "George" mod here:-
http://f5b.co.uk/?q=node/153

George = George Shering.

Dick

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Old Nov 05, 2009, 06:53 PM   #40
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I meant both George mods.

Actually i call the seconde mod the George mod. The other is just a limiter compatabilaty mod.

Joe

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Old Nov 06, 2009, 05:23 PM   #41
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Old Nov 12, 2009, 04:31 PM   #42
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Atlas 180 fried

Joe (jjmouris)

I have some updates which may amuse you a little

I had to buy the Atlas 180 ESC, and well it looked good I hooked it up and was about to program the settings through the new IR receiver/ remote control system this ESC is delivered with.
Well, i hooked up the IR receiver to one of the free ports in the ESC (as that was how i read the instruction at the moment) but nothing happened. I unhooked it and was to re-check the instructions.

I touched the ESC and it was choking hot, i got a bad feeling, and voila it was dead

Some bug in the controller must cause it to short (or something) when you hook up the programming unit wrongly.

I am waiting for a feedback from the seller, but likely doesnt get more than half the cost in refund because they probably want to say i did something wrong.
Money doesnt matter too much as i am more interested in hearing them say you may fry the unit by hooking a cable wrong (This doesnt include any power source of course)

Until i have a good explanation, i cant say other than : Stay away from the Atlas 180

To make the day perfect, i hooked up my Kontronik Jive, just to find that my Jive do not accept the inductivity of the Neu 1512/1.5D, so it wont arm

So the good news: I ordered a CC180
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Old Nov 12, 2009, 04:40 PM   #43
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Can you sponsor me with all that money?!

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Old Nov 12, 2009, 04:50 PM   #44
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A friend had a schulze go up in smoke when he connected it the first time. Happened to Kontronik as well , I'm sure there have been Castles too.It just happens with this stuff sometimes (I was lucky so far, only managed to kill 2 (Flash(OEM Jeti, wrong polarity) and HET(overloaded)), you'll only be safe buying none of them....I suggest rubber power....
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Old Nov 12, 2009, 05:25 PM   #45
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A friend had a schulze go up in smoke when he connected it the first time. Happened to Kontronik as well , I'm sure there have been Castles too.It just happens with this stuff sometimes (I was lucky so far, only managed to kill 2 (Flash(OEM Jeti, wrong polarity) and HET(overloaded)), you'll only be safe buying none of them....I suggest rubber power....
Oh yeah, i have killed a Kontronik and a CC previously. I dont expect these things to last forever. What i do expect though is that obvious fabrication defects in the unit is covered free of charge.

Use way beyond specs i take the responsibility for

Kontronik accepted full responsibility when my Jive jammed totally

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