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Old Apr 23, 2011, 11:30 PM
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I just realized I don't think I ever posted a finished picture of Impact Bob in this thread.

This was one of my first pilots and was more for fun than anything.

I hope to have my pilots on my website in about a week or less. I'm an engineering student and I'm waiting for finals to get over before I start to make the necessary changes to my site. It's never as easy as it should be.

If you have some spare time I'm hosting an Easter egg hunt on my website today and both prizes are still unspoken for.
www.tailspinaviation.com

Zach
That's pretty funny! Found your eggs around 7 last night and fired off the e-mails. Who won?
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Old Apr 24, 2011, 12:36 AM
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Mtflyr, seems the good details on a vacuum form pilot might be on the inside of the plastic. Pressing sculpey into the back of the form might yield a good place to start if you want to make your own figure. Never tried it. Just a thought.
All the best,
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Old Apr 24, 2011, 12:37 AM
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That's pretty funny! Found your eggs around 7 last night and fired off the e-mails. Who won?
Try to forward that email to me again. I checked my in box and it wasn't there. You're in the running.
tailspin@tailspinaviation.com

Zach
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Old Apr 24, 2011, 01:37 AM
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Try to forward that email to me again. I checked my in box and it wasn't there. You're in the running.
tailspin@tailspinaviation.com

Zach
Thanks! I tried a few more times. Hope at least one made it through. I checked the original e-mails and they were sent at 7:50 and 7:54pm. so that probably puts me out a bit.

Nice site though!
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Old Apr 24, 2011, 07:17 AM
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Hey Josh, Great minds think alike... I did try that but with regular Sculpty. I'll need to try the pink. I got the gray but it's too hard.

I like making my own molds and I posted some of my Vac formed pilots back on page two of this post when it started in 2009.

Vac formed pilots are very light but again details are lost. I'm going to give your method a try in 2009 Skylake posted some pretty good 1:18 scale WWII pilots in this post.

Thanks,

Pete
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 03:15 AM
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Warhead, that's the most gorgeous scratch-built pilot figure I've ever seen! Great job!

What I've done, as Pete told, is that I've modeled my pilots in 3d software (Softimage XSI and Zbrush) and I've ordered them as 3d prints from Shapeways, which is a rather new dutch 3d printing company, as well as other decoration parts for my planes, to make them look more scale. These models were originally made for my 25e Mustang series, but as a request from Pete, I've tried to scale them into 1:28 scale (same as Parkzone Ultra-Micro P-51D). They turned out pretty good. But I really need to try to print them out with the just released Shapeways ultra-detail material, which looks to have even more accuracy than my earlier prints (which Pete also got). And more pilots are of course planned. I'm just about to start modeling another one (a Russian pilot for Pete).

As the scale goes up, the Shapeways price goes up exponentially, since 3d printing costs are based on the volume of the object. And it ain't too cheap. This is why I've been thinking of trying to make resin casts out of my models. I really need to take a closer look on this thread. It seems to have tons of good stuff!

Good thing about Shapeways is that the models are not just for me. I've been able to offer them to anyone interested. Quite a lot of people have been pretty happy with them, even if they ain't the cheapest. But hey, how many has actual 3d printed pilots? (And don't worry, I've kept my own share of the price real low. I haven't even covered my test prints yet...)

Here's more info on my models.

- Toni / Lupus
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Old Apr 26, 2011, 06:05 PM
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One 3D print is all you would need and then make a mold of that. You could then make resin copies for well under $1 each. The resin is only about $0.03 per cc but you have to factor in the cost of molds.

I guess the advantage you have over the rest of us is that you can very accurately make your models any scale you want.

They look great by the way. I see why people don't mind paying a little extra.

Zach
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Old Apr 27, 2011, 02:09 AM
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Thanks.

I really need to look more into these more "traditional" ways of doing things. I only started this whole RC hobby last summer. I had wanted to try out the 3d printing for a long time and with RC planes I finally got a really good excuse for making some models for printing. Good thing about Shapeways stuff is also that it's pretty durable, and not too heavy. So they can actually be used in RC planes, not just as molds. But especially for larger scale the need for cheap copies becomes a bigger issue, as the price would get otherwise pretty high.
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Old Jun 05, 2011, 02:41 PM
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Well this isn't a pilot but I thought some might find it interesting.

Sometimes I mix up to much resin when casting a pilot so I have been using it to cast some pilot wings.

They turn out better than I thought. A little brass spray paint and a pin on the back and they are ready to give to little kids at the field.

Zach
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Old Jun 15, 2011, 11:46 PM
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I posted earlier about having trouble with goggles. This is my solution and it works fine for me. I wanted to have them separate so I could have the option of where to place them.
I started with a shape that I scanned from a photograph. I mirrored half the image so that both sides would be identical. Working on something flat, I CA'd a thin strip of paper on its edge to form the lenses. I put a very small bit of sculpey around this to form the pad of the goggles. Then I cooked it to harden it. I brushed on some silicone and then put something flat on top to make the backing of the mold flat. Pictures will make this clear I think.
Now I just spray a little plasti-dip coating onto the form and then wipe it with a razor blade across the top so the coating is only in the grooves of the form. A couple of layers and then time to dry and its done.

I know....I know.... Way too much time for a little detail!
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I posted earlier about having trouble with goggles. This is my solution and it works fine for me. I wanted to have them separate so I could have the option of where to place them.
I started with a shape that I scanned from a photograph. I mirrored half the image so that both sides would be identical. Working on something flat, I CA'd a thin strip of paper on its edge to form the lenses. I put a very small bit of sculpey around this to form the pad of the goggles. Then I cooked it to harden it. I brushed on some silicone and then put something flat on top to make the backing of the mold flat. Pictures will make this clear I think.
Now I just spray a little plasti-dip coating onto the form and then wipe it with a razor blade across the top so the coating is only in the grooves of the form. A couple of layers and then time to dry and its done.

I know....I know.... Way too much time for a little detail!
I have a perfect pilot for the Rake 1/8 Stahlwerk that you're working on.
I should have replicated him, before putting the glasses on. I've never used the silicone molding process, but there's a first time for everything.

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Old Jun 21, 2011, 12:08 AM
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Pilot tests

Here are my tests at sculpting some original pilots. I loosely based them on 1/7th scale pilots. The second image is after I took a sculpting class and focused more on realistic proportions, anatomy, etc. I'm also experimenting with various molding and casting techniques... more to come.
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Old Jun 21, 2011, 10:14 AM
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Here are my tests at sculpting some original pilots.
Very nice, Todd, but why are they so sad/angry? Flying is fun!!

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Old Jun 21, 2011, 11:32 AM
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Old Jun 21, 2011, 04:19 PM
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nice job Todd, are you planing on doing anything commercially with them? i have not seen any pilots in 1/7 scale and have been looking as i have a bit of a project on the go at the moment where a 1/7 WWi pilot and gunner will be needed down the track.

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