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Old Oct 25, 2009, 08:03 AM
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Gorilla glue.

Just wondering if there are any generic alternatives to this glue.

thanks....
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 09:49 AM
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From the Gorilla Glue website:

http://www.gorillaglue.com/informati...re-to-buy.aspx

Where To Buy

In the U.S. and Canada, Gorilla products can be found at most hardware stores, mass merchants and home centers. Also, be on the lookout for new Gorilla Epoxy, coming soon to a store near you.

For United Kingdom, please call 44 (0) 844 7451880 or email: eusales@gorillaglue.com

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Old Oct 25, 2009, 10:43 AM
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From the Gorilla Glue website:

http://www.gorillaglue.com/informati...re-to-buy.aspx

Where To Buy

In the U.S. and Canada, Gorilla products can be found at most hardware stores, mass merchants and home centers. Also, be on the lookout for new Gorilla Epoxy, coming soon to a store near you.

For United Kingdom, please call 44 (0) 844 7451880 or email: eusales@gorillaglue.com

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Thanks but I'm seeking an alternative.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 11:27 AM
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For sure there are alternatives. My carpenters (my? well the ones who built the house) had a foaming poly glue from probably screwfix.

heres some

http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A436128...thane-Adhesive

Not sure if these are foaming or not.

Oh a google suggest all polyurethanes are foamers, to a point

here's another one

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhe.../sd3198/p52489

Basically head for the nearest Builders Merchants and ask for polyurethane wood glue, at trade prices of course!

While you are there ask if they have ultra lightweight Polyfilla as that is the best balsa filler yet for very low weight, and get a gun of decorators caulk. That's brilliant stuff for filleting. It is essentially somwhqat like PVA plus filler, and it can be applied and wiped off with a wet finger., sets hard but not brittle. Its THE best filleter for wood use, Paints up easily too, unlike silicone. I've used it in the house along with bits of carved blue foam to make a faired in pipe 'blister' that covered an ugly pipe and its perfect for blending in edges. I have also used it to replace fallen out mastic in my motorhome. White, and seals the cracks better than regular mastic cos it STICKS. It's another way to hold canopies in as well.

Its rather like a slow version of hot glue...
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 11:32 AM
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Lots of alternatives - PU = Polyurethane
Elmers PU
Ultimate PU
Excel PU
SUMO PU
Titebond PU
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Sadly none available this side of the pond Hoppy.

Same glue, different brand names.

One of the best is simply called 'sticks like sh*t' Yup. That really is what its called on the tube, jus' like I wrote it.

Its not a PU glue tho. Its like 'no more nails' - a sort of air set acrylic glue.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 12:11 PM
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LOL,
In that case, google 'polyurethane glue uk'

One hint, place a strip of tape over the joint face that faces out. It will prevent the excess foaming out that is a pain to clean up after it has hardened.
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Old Oct 25, 2009, 02:08 PM
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This was a post by one of our other members;

"I am a woodworker (yet another hobby ) and subscribe to Fine Woodworking magazine. They ran a very thourough test on wood glue strengths in their August 2007 issue.

There were some surprises in the results. Big surprises. They tested the following:

1. PVA................. (Elmer's Carpenter's Glue, Titebond I, etc)
2. PVA Type I....... (Titebond III, etc.)
3. Epoxy.............. (Slow set type, not the weak 5-minute stuff)
4. Polyurethane.... (Gorilla Glue, etc.)
5. Liquid Hide Glue. (Brown urea based liquid)
6. Hot hide glue.... (Flakes dissolved and heated in glue pot)

The surprises? Epoxy was not the strongest. Polyurethane was the worst of the lot, really poor. And regular old PVA won the day. Sure surprised me anyway (as well as the editors doing the testing).

The strongest was PVA Type I, but it was only marginally stronger than regular PVA.

So unless you need the esoteric stuff for something outside normal bonding, the cheap PVA's are by far the best performer.

Please note, the tests were conducted on WOOD joints only. If you are bonding other materials, then epoxy wins.

They did not test any CA as it is seldom used in general woodworking and never for any serious joint.

Tom"
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Old Oct 27, 2009, 05:37 AM
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well its a question of the joint..a GOOD woodworking joint is a mortice and tenon, where the glue does no more than resist shear forces. PVA is brilliant there.


Not so sure when you are trying to butt something up, and need to build a fillet.
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Old Oct 28, 2009, 03:52 PM
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Gorilla Glue in UK

Are you asking if there is an alternative to Gorilla glue because you can't source it in uk?... Just by chance popped into screwfix the other day and noticed they are selling Gorilla glue :-) so should be everywhere round the uk.

Also there is something called rhino glue which some model shops have here in uk which i think is the same thing.

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Old Oct 28, 2009, 03:59 PM
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Rhino is better(?) in that it foams less.
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Old Nov 07, 2009, 11:37 AM
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Are you asking if there is an alternative to Gorilla glue because you can't source it in uk?... Just by chance popped into screwfix the other day and noticed they are selling Gorilla glue :-) so should be everywhere round the uk.

Also there is something called rhino glue which some model shops have here in uk which i think is the same thing.

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Thanks Denham and everyone but it's the often silly prices for small quantities that I struggle with and why I usually look for a non branded alternative.
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 06:44 PM
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Just brought a 275ml bottle for 12 from screw fix. I thnk its about 27 for a one liter bottle which would last forever :-)
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Old Nov 08, 2009, 10:37 PM
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...which would last forever :-)
PU adhesives have a limited shelf life. It is false economy to over-buy in large quantities.

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Old Nov 15, 2009, 04:06 AM
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Alternate brands

This is slightly off the point, but here in Australia we buy PU glue "Vise" brand is one. However, I have reason to suspect that it has differing qualities to Gorilla Glue. For most purposes this is not a problem. However, I did some test samples of vac bagging wings along Curtis's construction methods with poor results. I have formed the conclusion that the glue behaved differently than "Gorilla" glue. I posted my results in http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1065446

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