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Old Jan 03, 2010, 08:45 PM
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Thanks guys,

I usually don't like doing RTF/kit planes, I'd rather make my own but everyone's making this PZ P-51 look good so I thought I'd try one.

I enjoy doing the research and reading about the folks who flew these birds.
As I said, these micro birds being so light are hard to damage.

Pete
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Old Jan 04, 2010, 07:02 AM
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Bald Eaglet

Hey guys just wanted to show a pic of my first version of the bald eagle paint scheme. Yes i know it still needs the invasion stripes. Its still in the -fly a little- crash a little- paint it a little phase. Notice the slightly mangled nose. Ill do a better version after I destroy this airframe, mainly just so Im better with the flight characteristics of the model. Yes it looks rough but like I said its the prototype of whats to come, (experimenting with acrylic paints add ons and weight). I even added the antenna mast. im actually working on scale landing gear struts and rims that are coming out very well. Yes! I know (weight!) but they are very light construction and ill only use them for touch and go's and static display, a P51 should never have gear hangin out of the bottom.
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Old Jan 05, 2010, 01:01 AM
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cabman1969, yours is an awesome work in progress! I'm on my third spinner (I use landing gear, and the pavement is far from perfect), but I want to buy 3 more of these birds just for different paint jobs. Can't wait to see your final result/next plane.

It's nice to see somebody else put on the antenna mast and move the tail wheel!

Personally I prefer not to add landing gear doors/struts, as I feel a Mustang in flight should not have wheels down. As it is they are quite hard to notice, especially at a distance. I like what mtflyr has done, and that he is only using them for display.

~Joe

Edit: Just read your last sentence again... My thoughts exactly!
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Old Jan 05, 2010, 04:53 PM
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Thanks guys


I made the canopy, but the mold is not quite right yet. It doesn't fit coerrctly at the front, I had to bend it a little while I was gluing. Once I get the mold right I may offer a few for sale if there is enough interest.

A couple more pics, need to get some shots in the sunlight.
Ever get that mold right? I'd be interested if you have 'em.
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Old Jan 05, 2010, 06:23 PM
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I second that... I'd love a clear canopy, but am not equipped (or skilled enough) to make one myself!

~Joe
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Old Jan 08, 2010, 12:42 AM
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Not sure if this will work in the test phase now. A friend at my LHS made one for his slightly larger profile P-51 and it worked for him. I'm not sure if it will work with the PZ brick. I used two GWS 4X3 props cut one at the hub. Then CA'ed to the other hub. It will require making a new spinner as well.
Also made some paper prop decals to test looks.

I've done this before on my large 32" WS P-47 and it works great. Eyeballed the pitch etc on the added prop blades.

We'll see.

Pete
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Old Jan 08, 2010, 01:50 AM
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I had thought about doing that with the stock prop but didnt think I could get them straight.
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Old Jan 08, 2010, 06:40 AM
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..nice 4 blade! Hope it works, but usually I've lost efficiency with 4 blades. Let us know, I've got lots of props.
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Old Jan 08, 2010, 10:11 AM
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Well if it doesn't work you can always decrease the diameter. When you add a blade you increase pitch by 1 and diameter by 1. Of course you guys probably knew that but if the thrust isn't there jut trim the blade. Less weight to sling around and you should get more performance. I hope it works because I want to do the same thing.
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Old Jan 09, 2010, 12:48 AM
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Thanks Orion, my friend did infact reduce his diameter by cutting the prop.

I just got a GWS 4X3 instead of the 5X3.

I think it will work powers up ok the extra blades will I'm sure pop off the first time one hits the ground so I may try and cut a slot in the hub later for each blade.

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Old Jan 09, 2010, 08:28 AM
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Made some .010 styrene light weight drop tanks. They are held on with micro magnets not the best but they look okay and I should be able to fly with them or I can pop them off. Run up tests on the 4 blade prop are okay too. Also made a quick spinner but I'll need to make a better one if the 4 blade prop works.

Weight gain 1.1 oz to 1.3 oz not too bad.
Now mine can do long range missions

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Old Jan 09, 2010, 09:46 AM
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Man that looks good!
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Old Jan 09, 2010, 12:33 PM
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Pete,

you can fit extra batteries in side that drop tank. Looks great as usual.

Jin
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Old Jan 10, 2010, 08:40 PM
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Well today I was able to test fly the P-51 with the 4 blade prop indoors at the National Building Museum in down town DC. It's a great place to fly and I had a ton of fun.

The 4 blade prop really slowed the plane down and worked well until I landed and as I had thought both the CA held on blades poped off. The cool thing is with the now two blade GWS 4.5X3 prop the P-51 flew great indoors. It slowed it down enough to have fun flying it and the wing drop tanks worked great too and pop off when landing.

I may try cutting a notch in the prop hub to help keep the added blades on the prop. But again for tight areas of indoor flying just using the GWS 4.5X3 prop is a pretty good way to go.

Thanks to the folks who set up the indoor flying at the National Building Museum

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Old Jan 10, 2010, 10:41 PM
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Well today I was able to test fly the P-51 with the 4 blade prop indoors at the National Building Museum in down town DC. It's a great place to fly and I had a ton of fun.

The 4 blade prop really slowed the plane down and worked well until I landed and as I had thought both the CA held on blades poped off. The cool thing is with the now two blade GWS 4.5X3 prop the P-51 flew great indoors. It slowed it down enough to have fun flying it and the wing drop tanks worked great too and pop off when landing.

I may try cutting a notch in the prop hub to help keep the added blades on the prop. But again for tight areas of indoor flying just using the GWS 4.5X3 prop is a pretty good way to go.

Thanks to the folks who set up the indoor flying at the National Building Museum

Pete
Hey mtflyr- your bird looks incredible! So if you had to guess at how much the speed was decreased by using the gws prop-what do you think it would be? 10%-20%-30%???? I put fixed flaps on my P51 to slow it down enough for indoor flight, but maybe I'll change the prop too to make it a little more relaxing as mine flies well indoors but really have to keep on the sticks at all times-had an indoor fly today and now my bird has a crease in the wing, but doesnt effect the flight at all Once again your plane looks AWESOME!
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