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Old Sep 17, 2001, 09:35 AM
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Has anyone built with the Lil Hornet's foam wing left overs?

Hornet's still alive !!!

I'm thinking maybe it is a good time to use the foam pieces left over from the wing skin cutting process to build a back up plane.

Has anyome actually built a plane withy these?

I would apreciate tips or a previous thread.


Q: Do they sell the white plastic wing joiner separately?

I like the fact that all the goodies are held in the plastic tray instead of hanging out in the breeze


Thanks & Keep them flying (Flags and planes)
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 10:01 AM
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Poobs there were several people planning on useing them. There was some talk of this in the lost threads.
I'm planning on the same thing. It will be heavier so I may use a larger motor. Geared 280 probably. The Pseudo Hornet will be better for those windy or gusty days that would make the Lil Hornet marginal.

I doubt M&M will sell the plastic patrs seperatly. Their kit sales would then drop by 50 %. If you find a source please let me know.
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 10:48 AM
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Thanks Kevin:

I did not think they would sell them but sometimes you gotta try

They sell sheets of thin plastic in my LHS. I can always use a spar to join the wing 1/2s then cover with this thin plastic top and bottom. The servos & receiver can go in cut outs in the plastic.

"Its all coming together"
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 12:45 PM
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Here is what I did. Does not look good but is a great slow flyer.

See the link below for pics.

http://home.earthlink.net/~jsmeyers/_wsn/page4.html

It takes a moment to load.

Let me know if you would like some info on what I did. Although it is very simple to make...I found a few neat tricks during construction.

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Old Sep 17, 2001, 12:58 PM
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That is too Cool!

How does it fly? wing is flat bottomed but thinner than the hornett and more area.

Thanks.
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 03:45 PM
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Jeff - It looks like a mix of a pico stick and an old timer.
Are they the innerds that came out of the Lil Hornet wing skins ?
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 08:25 PM
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If anyone is interested.......

I took all my equipment out of the Lil Hornet to see if it would fly. I have not bothered to put it back in the Hornet as I can EASILY fly this in my neighborhood. I would be too busy on the sticks to fly the Hornet in the street.

Many guys at the field have really enjoyed flying it. It really shines on a calm evening. However, I have no problems flying it in 5-10 mph winds.


All up weight is 12 oz. (Even with all the slowfly rule breakers used in construction)
Equipment:

Servos - 2 GWS Pico BB
RX - FMA Extreme 5
Antenna - Azarr
Motor - Taken out of Lil Hornet
Battery - 7 cell 720 Nmh pack from Radical RC
ESC - Pixie 14 with light leads
Span - 46.5 inches
(Inner sections are the full length of the "leftover cores")
(Outer sections are about 10 inches)
Fuse Length - 30 inches
Leading edge of wing is 5.5 inches from front of fuse
Horizontal Stab -17 inches wide by 3.75 inches
Elevator - 17 inches by 2.5 inches and tapers at ends
Vertical Stab - 9 inches tall by 3.75 and tapers at top
Rudder - 3 inches wide and tapers at the top
Landing gear - 3.75 inches from front of fuse one inch shorter than Lil Hornet plans

Parasol Mount

Two 4 inche long peices of 1/8th light ply
Notch the center so you can glue on to the fuse stick
4 - 2.5 inch long 1/4 inch square glued to light ply for vertical mounts for 2 - 1/8 inch dowels

Dowels are epoxied on to veritcal peices and uses as the wing saddle

Wing (This may seem like overkill but my wing still flexes with everything below)

Sand some diheadral in each wing joint and epoxy
I glassed top and bottom of each wing joint
.75 ounce glass cloth on bottom of two inner wing sections applied with elmers glue

two 1 inch peices of strapping tape on bottom of wing for strength

Packing tape on top and bottom of trailing edge to protect flimsy foam

Use packing tape on top of wing to get the amount of polyhedral you want.

1/64 light ply squares on trailing edge to protect wings from rubber bands

At the end of the day....

I should have bought a Duskstick from the beginning. I think the only way I would be happy with true aerobatic slowflyer is to get a Tiny or try a Urban Flyer. I thought the Hornet would be a good street flyer...not for me.

Anyone want to buy my Lil Hornet???


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Old Sep 17, 2001, 09:12 PM
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Jeff - What did your Lil Hornet weigh with the above equipment ?
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 09:23 PM
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Hi Poobs,
I emailed Merrill at M&M (Merrill Brady <mmglidrt@keyway.net>) and he sold me some new cores and the plastic pieces no problem and at a reasonable price. (Little problem with ground contact) Give him a ring. Nice guy to deal with.
Later!
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Old Sep 17, 2001, 09:31 PM
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Kevin,

10.5 ounces

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Old Sep 18, 2001, 05:00 AM
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Re: Hornet Parts

Mel:

Thanks, this is good news

I think Hornet # 2 is on its way...
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Old Sep 18, 2001, 04:13 PM
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Mel let us in on it, how must dose Merrill charge fir a set of skins and the plastic pieces ?

Mabey Lil Hornet will be a Lil Watt-Fun hybred.
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Old Sep 22, 2001, 01:03 AM
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LiL Hornet cores

Hey all

I am glad that you like the LiL Hornet.
Any can get replacement parts for LiL Hornet.


The nice guy

Mr. M
Merrill Brady




www.mmglidertech.com
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Old Sep 22, 2001, 07:18 AM
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Thanks Merril

I have been too busy to do anything but one flight last night so I haven't contacted Glider Tech etc.

I think all i need to build a hornett like plane is the center wing white plastic pieces....Maybe I'll call it the Little Wasp

Here's the plan: Use the flat flat bottom airfoil sections from the hornet's wing skin left overs to make a thinner symetrical wing.

I don't expect the little beast to be a slow flyer at all.
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Old Sep 22, 2001, 10:25 AM
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Thanks Merrill and Welcome to the EZone.
I like to see the designers, manufacturers and distributers participate here.
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